Quote from: ozzke on August 31, 2014, 06:57:54 PM

Quote from: reasonman on August 31, 2014, 06:41:03 PM

Quote from: reasonman on August 27, 2014, 05:46:44 PM

Before I go into this, just know that I'm in PND with 275m coins.

It's great that you're all so into PND the way you are, but you can't stick your heads in the sand. Lesser known alt's are constantly played, run up and then plowed and PND may be no different. Just because the devs may be great, which seems to be the case, and there are cool new features coming out, which seems to be the case, doesn't mean that the price won't tank after the official announcement.

Consider that the price has gone nuts in the last couple weeks based purely on hype and expectations of future news. What coin can anyone name had that happen and the price DIDN'T balance out at or below prehype levels? I'd bet none. Also consider the price you're seeing now is likely already factoring in the news, meaning it might not go up when the news is released because the price already reflects that. In fact it might go down because nervous investors will see the price not going up and start selling off, triggering a drop out, or it might be a race to see which dumper can get their cut first. They don't say buy on the rumor, sell on the news for no reason.

Point is don't blindly dismiss any criticisms or concerns because "PND to the moon". We didn't get to the actual Moon by closing our eyes and hoping for the best.

I'd just like to bring this up again from a few days ago because it appears to have held true so far. You guys are pretty passionate about this coin but you can't ignore the drop in price and you can't just shrug it off, try to rationalize it and then cry 'to the moon' again. You also can't just say anyone with criticism or anyone that's pointing out some faults is only here to spread FUD. That's not how this works and it just makes you all look like clowns who really don't know what you're doing. If you were all genuinely interested in making PND something important, you'd all listen to opposing opinions and have a discussion about how to improve the coin and bring actual innovation. I'd wager that if you dropped into any crypto forum and asked a question about PND, most people would either not have heard of it or only heard about it in passing but didn't bother looking into it further because in reality there really isn't anything that differentiates this coin from another with the exception of some fancy wallet(much like Reddcoin and look where they are from their pre-news prices). Try that with Doge and see how many people say "oh yeah that was the coin based off a meme that funded the Jamaicans" vs "I don't really know much about PND".

I'm just throwing out some ideas here but this could have been approached any number of ways to get people on board and stay on board. You could have had a massive marketing campaign like BlackCoin did. You could have funded some charity and spread the news like Doge did. In the vein of being "for the masses" you could have done something to actually entice regular people to the coin like taken out a small ad in a newspaper or a radio spot, something to reach people outside the crypto world. My mom's heard of Doge, she hasn't heard of PND and that's where part of your failure is, it doesn't matter if you have easy mining, it doesn't matter if you have a fancy wallet or a slick site. All that is worth nothing if your core audience, regular people, have never even heard of you.

If you don't want PND to end up on the crypto scrapheap you'll stop ignoring constructive criticism, stop labeling people as shills and start working together to get things done. Get out there and make this coin worth something as a community instead of having the devs shoulder everything. If you don't, this coin WILL fail as there is nothing substantial that puts it apart from other coins.

Thank you for your post reasonman, we actually don't label everything as FUD, we answer to all (reasonable) questions and are open to constructive criticism.

Let me start with this: our main marketeer has almost 20 years of experience and leads a big team in a PR company in his daytime job. What you have to understand is that marketing starts after you develop a product/service. The release yesterday of the new website and first batch of new features is the foundation. Without a good foundation everything you build on top of it just collapses. Now the next step comes and that's the marketing. We have an entire marketing plan/roadmap planned out for the next few months. Our marketeer will take care of that.

We don't aim to be like BlackCoin or Dogecoin. Dogecoin's marketing efforts might have gained them some quick exposure and some pumping but look at it for the last couple of months. And we're not making a music video either Wink

. We've put a lot more thought in our marketing approach.
Talking about charities: http://pnd4pnd.com/

Rome was not build on a day. Neither is Pandacoin, but Rome survived a couple of 100 years, Lets aim for the same thing with Pandacoin Wink

Precisely.

Turbulent seas may scare a few passengers, but a seaworthy ship will sail on.

We're here for the duration, and we all strive for building a high quality coin that provides a REAL reason for you and everyone else to want it.