Quote from: Timetwister on September 03, 2014, 10:25:51 AM

Quote from: dankkk on September 03, 2014, 03:00:12 AM

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Quote from: superbd on August 30, 2014, 08:15:17 PM

Just imagine you have $600 (which is an unfortunately small amount to "multiply"). Transaction fees and other costs guarantee an investment of $600 will likely have a lower risk-adjusted profit than if you had more. I can't imagine BTCjam or Havelock return anything close to 8% after defaults.

in BtcJam there are a lots of ponzis and doubtful projects, unfortunately it's scammer's heaven

Havelock on the other hand, have better projects but many of them pays revenues according sells of each company, but those sells are paid with dollars, so if the company sell 10.000usd in products, then your dividends in bitcoins are a part of this amount. If the price rises, the company income still are 10.000usd, but your dividends in btc will be lower

I would not invest in a company whose income are in usd if I expect multiply my bitcoins, but this could be a good opportunity if you have some USD

Even havelock has mostly risky investments. Granted they carry less risk then the average BTCJam loan, but still a lot of risk by most people's standards.

I think the best way to invest 1 BTC would be via collateral loans. It will require a lot of sweat equity in terms of approving and managing your loans, but the returns are generally very high and the risk is pretty low.

And you also have the risk of Havelock itself scamming shareholders. We need a decentralized stock market in BTC.

Loans take too much time to manage.

A decentralized stock exchange would likely have too high of trading fees (the equivalent of a TX fee) as a lot of resources would need to be in place to keep it secure (unless people are willing to trust that someone is going to actually deliver shares and/or payment for shares.

Loans do take a lot of time to manage, but they are very profitable. You could easily make 10% per week on the money deployed via loans.