Quote from: smooth on September 03, 2014, 01:19:21 PM

Quote from: DreamSpace on September 03, 2014, 12:55:26 PM

to point 1.)
please explain me where you see a proof that the dev of quazarcoin is connected to bytecoin?
i can't find one, he did a fork, monero was a fork, so what is the problem?

It's in the original post under "all tied up in a bow" or something like that. Essentially all of the cryptonote/bytecoin-run coins used the same ISPs, same mail providers, same very idiosyncratic web designs elements, etc. A reasonable sample of other coins shows that very few if any unaffiliated coins used the same hosting resources and I very much doubt any of them used the css reset. Some of this was likely changed after that post came out, but it was accurate at the time (I checked most of it).

This is not 100% absolute irrefutable evidence (though I'm not sure what would be) but is pretty damn compelling, especially when viewed in light of the comparison with other, clearly-unaffiliated coins.

i searched a little bit in the original threads and my conclusion is that oracionseis just made a new clean launch, with under the circumstances a very unlucky first name but he launched the coin as QuazarCoin.
i see nothing fishy here (with exception of the first used name, but he launched not with that name!), can you give me a link where the discussion about same ISPs etc happened?
i watched here https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-mro-monero-privacy-data-protection-cpu-only-0-premine-fast-miner.310690/page-4

Quote from: smooth on September 03, 2014, 01:19:21 PM

Quote from: DreamSpace on September 03, 2014, 12:55:26 PM

and additional how can it be a scam? there is no premine, not even a emission curve, which favours early miners extraordinary.
so please explain, i am really interested in your answer.

Who knows. You'd have to ask them. I've commented on the caretaker developer pump-and-dump scam (they're holding coins from early mining and will keep up appearance of development while they slowly sell, until they're done, and then its good bye for good), but I will be the first to admit I'm totally guessing. However, I'm going to be a bit skeptical when affiliation with a clearly-scummy organization (and with respect to your comment about the truth being the first casualty, this really isn't even controversial any more) has been demonstrated.

maybe the quazarcoin devs want to say sth. ?
but not even the caretaker argument is valid in this state, because there is not much room for dumping . and also i mined with my old crappy hardware (RIP) in the first weeks and even with that i got nearly 80 quazars (don't laugh this here is just like a hobby for me) and it looks not that they want to abandon the coin.

Quote from: smooth on September 03, 2014, 01:19:21 PM

Quote from: DreamSpace on September 03, 2014, 12:55:26 PM

to point 2.)
to be honest i don't get it, whats the point here (english is not my native language) ?

Someone claimed that the GUI was "recently" developed, and cited this as evidence of this coin having very active development. I disagree and the link provides background support for my claim that the GUI was largely developed by early June.

ok what i can say is that the first gui-wallet was for mac, made by pfo, link here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615732.msg7196215#msg7196215 (8 june)

i still keep my opinion that i see here absolut no sign of a scam but a lot of blood in the streets, too many emotions and suspicions etc., but in contrary a nice launch, a very nice emission curve and devs which are looking still trustworthy for me.
i will stay with QuazarCoin

good luck all and peace, there are quite more important things in the world actually then this kind of crypto-greed and crypto-war (no offending and not specific just saying it generally) which i am experiencing here

edit: s-h-i-t Tongue

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