Quote from: Bonam on September 03, 2014, 08:56:11 PM

Quote from: bitsalame on September 03, 2014, 08:41:52 PM

That is an absurd argument. What matters for the company is building value, not satisfying some speculators in the secondary market.
What you should care as an investor is that the long term growth is sustainable, and if a solid proposition for growth exists, you should be happy that the company has the chance of reinvesting profits to fuel its growth.
That means, no dividends for shareholders.

If you don't know the difference between stock price and value, you better stay away from investments.

In the bitcoin universe, where the overwhelming majority of possible investments are scams or failures, it's important to continually demonstrate that one does not fit into that category.

As for value... sure, I believe in value investing and use this strategy with my USD denominated investments. Tell me, what is the P/E for Asicminer? What is the Return on Capital? What is the fair value per share based on your estimates? Truth is, there is no recent hard info out there, and the last (outdated) financial report that is out there does not paint a particularly positive picture.

In a marketplace where trust is limited and accountability is non-existent, generating a continual revenue stream for investors is important to demonstrate legitimacy, even if that sacrifices a portion of the profits that could otherwise have been re-invested in growth opportunities.

It is a startup, no matter what universe you are living in.
All of us are actually angel investors, regardless of the fancy IPOing term they might have used for their crowdfunding.
If you don't want to deal with risks, go put your money in hedge funds and play in etrade.

If you want to support a growing company, do fucking support it.