Quote from: Intermatic on September 05, 2014, 05:58:26 PM

Quote from: dank on September 05, 2014, 12:47:57 AM

You want to create a society driven by robots? Ill pass, there is already a perfect system called anarchy, aka volunteerism, aka freedom, aka nature. We could all be competing for energy, peace, rather than materials. A true race to help the most people.

All man made systems fail. All we need is the perfect balancing law/equilibrium that is karma.

Its a novel idea man but robotic societal integration is a real threat to humanity.

Hi Dank!

I do not believe that human-operated anarchy can work. From what I know, it relies on the idea that that all 7 billion humans will be altruists and will not be warlords who will abuse the voluntarist society to amass armies and create a global dictatorship. That said, I have not read up a whole lot on anarchism, and I would welcome you enlightening me on it

I do agree that man-made systems have overwhelmingly failed time and time again in the past, and that will be the biggest challenge to my ideas. The whole point of Phase Four will be to overcome that, and the potential existential threat of the social integration of robots to humanity that you speak of.

Walk around your block. Tell me if a greater majority of your neighbors are flaunting war with each other.

Now, since your neighbors are typically in their house, or in their garden, walking their dog, or otherwise minding their own business, it's safe to say that the average human being is a not vicious barbaric warlord. The average human is someone who wants to be happy. Who wants to have friends or a lover to spend time with.

Now, let's look at how society is now. We currently have vicious barbaric warlords lifted unto a pedestal avast a trance induced population that acts as stormtroopers for their higher agenda. We have mass genocide being committed at a constant rate. We have famine caused by our supreme warlord overlords and the restrictions they place against neighboring economies. Controlled indefinite chaos.

Now, let's imagine everyone was an anarchist, they all held the knowledge here-within: 1) Anarchy is complete freedom. Freedom makes humans happy. 2) Anarchy is living without your supreme overlords commanding you what to do or how to think. The only possible way a governing entity could exist is through oppressing it's 'power' (illusory power) through violence. 3) Anarchy is natural. Cows do not form governments and slaughter other cows, flies do not form governments to rule other flies, birds do not train armies to attack other flocks.

Now, everyone is an anarchist, as it's the logical state of existence to choose, as it is natural. Joe decides he wants to dominate the world. He wants to be the supreme overlord of earth. Joe and 100 buddies decide to attack everyone around them. Earth has a population of almost eight billion people. If Joe and his buddies wanted to take control of earth, they would have to control or kill 80,000,000 times the amount of people they had to begin with.

Through nature's (anarchy's) perfectly balancing equilibrium forces, I would approximate that a 8,000,000,000 men battle against 100 men would end with 7,999,999,999 men and 0 of Joe's team remaining.

Therefor, it is safe to conclude that anarchy provides a perfect medium and balance between energies, as nature is a constantly perfected balance.

We can also conclude that for a natural population of homo sapiens to be ushered into a trance of hierarchical overlords vastly outnumbered by the population, the overlords at work may possibly be of a different species. Millions, if not, billions of species have existed on earth. It is highly probable a more evolved race is responsible for the societal structures over the last thousands of years.

Now, regardless if our supreme overlords are human or not, taking this knowledge we have learned through logic, why continue feeding them your energy? They only have power over you if you believe they do, hence, humanity is awakening from a great trance from beyond the realms of humanity.

As you observed when you took a walk around your neighborhood, we are able to conclude that human beings are not supreme overlords by nature. We are humans that want to live, prosper, and live some more. We are beings that seek love, acceptance, understanding, unity.

It is safe to say that our society is not the work of your average human, but a creation by beings with a superior intellect and awareness, assisted by mind control through exciting stimulus in humans such as pain, fear, greed, lust.

It just so happens that the CIA has spent millions on mind control programs. There are no coincidences in a world entangled by matter.

So, with this knowledge, can we agree that further robotic integrated control over our human lives may not be in the best interest of homo sapiens, but rather the beings 'above' them?

Nature is perfect.