Quote from: vragnaroda on April 29, 2012, 12:15:29 AM

Quote from: matthewh3 on April 28, 2012, 10:37:33 PM

Quote from: terrytibbs on April 28, 2012, 10:31:42 PM

Quote from: matthewh3 on April 28, 2012, 10:29:35 PM

but I think the apologise is spelt correct.

Both are correct, I would assume Matthew would be more exposed to "apologize". Apologise is predominant in Great Britain.

Fucking Brits, always have to do things their way.

As English is the language of England I presume the English way of spelling English is correct. Those rebel colonists are worse then me at writing. Tho Isaac Asimov and Philip K Dick were my favourite writers.

Actually, no, you have your derivations wrong: English arose as the language of the Angles, people from Angeln, who later settled in England and gave that isle its name. The people living in England are no more entitled to claim purity to the language than the speakers of it that live in other parts of the world, who are as much the descendants and heirs of the earliest speakers of it.

As for the spelling of the suffix -ize/-ise, you don't spell it the English way; you spell it the French way (which I think says something more about you, too, but we'll leave that for another day): it comes from the Greek -ιζειν, which became -izāre in Latin and -ize in English. In the 19th Century, -ise became popular in the UK due to French influence.

Quote from: OED

n mod.F. the suffix has become -iser, alike in words from Greek, as baptiser, évangéliser, organiser, and those formed after them from L., as civiliser, cicatriser, humaniser. Hence, some have used the spelling -ise in Eng., as in French, for all these words, and some prefer -ise in words formed in French or Eng. from L. elements, retaining -ize for those of Gr. composition. But the suffix itself, whatever the element to which it is added, is in its origin the Gr. -ιζειν, L. -izāre; and, as the pronunciation is also with z, there is no reason why in English the special French spelling should be followed, in opposition to that which is at once etymological and phonetic. In this Dictionary the termination is uniformly written -ize. (In the Gr. -ιζ-, the i was short, so originally in L., but the double consonant z (= dz, ts) made the syllable long; when the z became a simple consonant, (-idz) became īz, whence Eng. (-aɪz).)

While it may be the popular English-people way of spelling that suffix, it is not a worse English-language way of spelling it.

Also, *though for fuck's sake (what are you, 13?) and *{spelt|spelled} correctly.

OK then yes the Angles helped bring about the name England and English from Angleland and Anglish but the English language deviates from old and middle German like Frisian. Frisian is the closest foreign language to English. Everywhere in the world where English is spoken was spread by agents of the king or Queen of England. So England's English is the oldest and most correct form of the Germanic language of English. No I'm not thirteen but thirty-two tho I am dyslexic but have studied Fourier Transforms and Matrix Calculus as a student. So you may laugh at my language skills but at least I can count.