Quote from: Jutarul on September 09, 2014, 09:57:02 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 09, 2014, 09:35:45 PM

Quote from: Syke on September 09, 2014, 09:22:56 PM

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The correct course of action is to involve the lawyers.

Fact: BTC suddenly went from ~$100 to ~$1000, and only an greedy idiot would actually expect a 10x windfall at HashFast's expense because of that.
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Ok. I'll bite. Where is the windfall in not spending your BTC with HashFast? Where is the windfall in getting your equipment on time and yielding the same amount of bitcoins back which were used to purchase the equipment in the first place?

I don't know which agenda you serve or which playbook you're drawing from. But logic certainly is not your friend. You come here and keep insulting the intelligence of HashFast victims and blame them for lending trust to people who nefariously abused it, instead of pointing the finger at those who acted in bad faith.

If you would have the least amount of decency you would just shut up and let the legal system deal with the fallout of this mess.

You don't get to ask questions, and then tell me not to answer them. At least not if you have any sense of fairness.

I never said " not spending your BTC with HashFast" and "getting your equipment on time and yielding the same amount of bitcoins back which were used to purchase the equipment in the first place" are windfalls. Although they would be in the financial sense, because the BTC price jumped up resulting in a large USD profit. But you can't expect a company to honor an impossible interpretation of their refund obligations, that's unreasonable and referred to as a "windfall" in the legal domain, where it is not an actionable claim. Most people got that memo months ago, and wisely dropped the topic. Not sure why we're reaching back to it now... Tongue

Even if they agreed with you, where was HF supposed to get the money to pay out 10x their orders, after spending millions to build an amazing chip and some less than amazing boards? It was a start-up, not IBM.

I'm not insulting all HF customers here, just sharing lessons learned from being among them.

I am insulting the idiots you called "victims" who are still making off-topic Scam Accusations without evidence, and moaning about how they bear zero responsibility for sharing the unavoidable inherent risks of pre-ordering ASICs from a tiny new company.

DYODD and stop whining when you gamble more than you can afford to lose, only to lose. It's just business, grow up and stop making it personal. HF wanted to be the Nvidia of ASICS, not the 3dfx, and certainly not a scam. It's not the first time having the best product was insufficient to maintain solvency. If it's really your first personal experience of that phenomenon, consider this an expensive but valuable lesson (with my sympathies).