Quote from: smooth on September 11, 2014, 04:46:37 AM

The curve is about twice as fast as Bitcoin. I wanted it slower but I'm not sure twice as fast as Bitcoin is bad, given much faster adoption now. For the first two years or so, very few people even knew Bitcoin existed and there was no cryptocoin community. The situation is very different now.

There is only one curve that is correct for maximizing user (not investor) adoption: perpetual debasement. Bad money drives good money out of circulation. Reality check!

And per Peter R's chart, user adoption is what drives the market cap, not investor adoption. The market price is a weighing machine of the user (not investment) adoption value, i.e. the whales don't influence the price at all (over the long-term). All they can do is make the mistake of thinking they do and doubling-down on their mistakes when the adoption value and thus price is not increasing fast enough.

Quote from: Benjamin Graham

the stock owner should not be too concerned with erratic fluctuations in stock prices, since in the short term, the stock market behaves like a voting machine, but in the long term it acts like a weighing machine (i.e. its true value will in the long run be reflected in its stock price).

Until you get this point, you will be scratching your head wondering why Monero's price is not growing fast.

Quote from: smooth on September 11, 2014, 04:46:37 AM

...and begging for money...

Bwahaha. ROFLMAO.

Your true colors are now shining through. You bear false witness against your fellow human, which in my book makes you a charlatan.

You are now a proven liar. The only people I've been begging are the gold dealers who withheld my money (but this has since been rectified). I owned 18,000oz of silver in 2008. I was minting silver rounds and 10oz bars and supplying Risto's silver business in Europe. If you disagree, you quote me where I have begged for money. You will not find one such quote. I was gifted 2 BTC by Risto unexpectedly. And he will earn much more from that 2 BTC than he will ever earn on his Monero investment. I never asked him for money. Also in the past I was also generous or flexible in my dealings with Risto when he had a failed deal with a counter party.

So you are escalating this eh? It won't end well for you and Monero. The worse thing you can do is motivate me.

I have not aggressively criticized Monero in the past. I was fair. But you guys can dish out the verbal lashings on everyone else's coin (e.g. BBR, DRK, NXT, etc) but you can't stomach it when someone tells you that your coin has egregious weaknesses also. Your little shitcoin is going nowhere. Observe and learn.

Btw, Risto when you talk about how you've been persecuted by the authorities in Finland, realize you are not a USA citizen as I am.

Sweden, New Zealand, and USA all have a high crime rate:

http://www.insideprison.com/crime-statistics-by-country.asp

But the difference is that Sweden rehabilitates and helps, whereas the USA brutalizes and punishes:

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/dec/01/why-sweden-closing-prisons

Look at the photos on this web page below, you will be so sickened when you compare the USA prison to the Finland prison:

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/09/why-scandinavian-prisons-are-superior/279949/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate

Number of people in prison:

2,125,424 - USA (that is 2.1 million)
1,674,862 - China (and China's population is 4X larger)
  113,000 - Philippines
   68,598 - France
   44,547 - Chile
   31,379 - Australia
   8,302 - New Zealand
   5,760 - Sweden

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/02/13/why-do-they-hate-us-so-much/

The USA's conviction rate is nearly 99%. Even Adolf Hitler had a
conviction rate of about 90% at his notorious Peoples Court under Roland Freisler (pictured in the center) who was the most bloodthirsty of all the head judges to rule that court. Even Wikpedia writes:

The number of death sentences rose sharply under Freislers stewardship. Approximately 90% of all proceedings ended with sentences of death or life imprisonment, the sentences frequently having been determined before the trial. Between 1942 and 1945, more than 5,000 death sentences were handed out, and of these, 2,600 through the courts First Senate, which Freisler headed. Thus, Freisler alone was responsible, in his three years on the court, for as many death sentences as all other senate sessions of the court together in the entire time the court existed, between 1934 and 1945.

The conviction rate in the United States is nearly 99% and has beaten every historical statistic of the worse tyrants throughout every century except those who did not even pretend to give a trial. And Obama has signed into law the right to indefinitely imprison American Citizens without trial, lawyers, or any rights whatsoever. Now this Justice Department leak shows he also maintains it is legal to kill American without a trial as well take them away! This will enable the government to reach their goal 100% with no exceptions! The question is WHY do these people hate our civil liberties so much? They are like a two-year old who refuses to share a toy and prefers to break it instead. They know they are collapsing. They have ruined the finances of the state. Instead of trying to reform, they prefer to retain power and destroy everything that made an American once proud to be an American. They will not survive. This is as unsustainable as Communism and the fall from grace will be very nasty.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/01/25/the-untouchables-how-the-obama-administration-protected-wall-street-from-prosecutions/

The one thing that surprised me running around the globe on this last trip was how much the United States has fallen from grace. The legal system is seen as the most corrupt in the world and that is the important essential cornerstone of commerce. When Margaret Thatcher spoke at our conference in 1997, she was asked which country would she invest in Russia or China? Her response was neither because they did not respect the rule or law at that time. The rule of law is the foundation of everything. If courts change transcripts and rule only for government as the US conviction rate is now virtually 99%, then capital is not safe and cannot invest for there is no way to vindicate your rights be they to property, human, or
constitutional.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/09/numerous-false-terrorist-charges-torture-to-extract-confessions/

One must question the governments involvement in that one as well. Higazy explained that he had falsely confessed because the polygraph operator had threatened his family. They ALWAYS threaten your family that is how they keep their 99% conviction rate. Women are threatened with taking their children and putting them up for adoption.

Federal Judge Jed S. Rakoff ordered the U.S. Attorneys Office to investigate how the FBI came to extract a false confession from Mr. Higazy. The governments first response was to tell Judge Rakoff to take a hike. They bluntly told him he had no authority to order the government to investigate how it extracted an obvious false confession from an innocent kid.