Quote from: Alexandrake on September 11, 2014, 04:52:29 AM

Quote from: kosmost on September 11, 2014, 02:32:56 AM

Quote from: bignev on September 10, 2014, 09:04:00 PM

Quote from: kosmost on September 10, 2014, 08:50:47 PM

Quote from: bitwho on September 10, 2014, 08:47:21 PM

last part probably added by me. but "i will be %100 with karma" you have said it many time.

i am not going to be holding you up for it in case you do change your mind. i am not going to come after you using that to base my accusations.

Well, as usual. I am still here, doing what I can.

How do you think Karma should proceed for the next 6 months? It would be interesting to hear everyone's ideas.

There has been a lot of interesting and forward thinking ideas coming from Karma.

I am not as invested both financially and emotionally as some/most here so my thoughts are to be taken on that basis.

At this point it is my opinion that the big ideas about changing the world are tantamount to running before you can walk. Although an admirable philosophy and one which should be pursued in the future, this philosophy cannot be achieved without some kind of adoption by people in the developed world.

In the first instance I believe a push should be made to make Karma the mainstream twitter and facebook tipping currency. The name is perfect and no tip bot has made it out of the crypto circle and into the mainstream yet (Please correct me if I'm wrong about this).

All community efforts should be put into this exercise for the coin to gain some traction. A huge push by the community to get Karma out there to people and organisations, fan pages etc should be made.

This would involve a huge giveaway by those holding lots of coins but at this point I see it as the only hope for the coin to survive.

Why hodl millions of coins if they are worthless?

I don't believe any of us is talking about changing the world.

However, it would be foolish to do something that has not yet been proven to work. There is probably a reason that "...no tip bot has made it out of the crypto circle and into the mainstream yet " as you say. It's probably because the mainstream does not care to use such a thing.

But why change the ways of the mainstream? Why not copy that same model that has proven wildly successful for M-PESA in a similar country, but using Karma? It could even work by SMS messaging just like M-PESA (but only agents needed, starting with a single agent)

You're going about doing something that has not been done before (and no one may care about) versus something that has already been proven to work

You agree that we should not "change the world" but then proceed to talk about changing the mainstream. Wouldn't it be easier to find those who actually need Karma or something like Karma and start from there?

Now I know, you don't listen to anyone but yourself, that is why you fail as a leader.

You keep saying "Wouldn't it be easier to find those who actually need Karma"

Why?? Is need equal sale? Do people need things that's why they buy? Come on, I know you're sharper than that. Get over yourself, listen to everyone, then learn to cooperate.

The people you say "may need" karma, but first you must create the "WANT" factor. We choose to buy or use things daily from among many options, not because we need, most of the time because we want it.

Granted Philippines and Africa may need karma. Why?? Because karma can save them lots of money that's all.
but you have to factor in; accessibility, ease of use, security, knowledge and many other related issues...in order for them to choose karma over their usual utilities.

You say we can build the infrastructure at the same time, when we have identified our market. How long have you been saying that? If you have used the funding you have in LLC before, you don't have to worry on working on everything at the same time, when finally you found the market you speak of. Wouldn't it be ideal that the supporting softwares are already tested before you try to use it in real world market? Well, this is not how you wanted things. So you don't listen. And in fact, you wont understand my point for the same reason.

First create the want so you can serve the need. (You can only take a horse beside the water, the horse should want to drink it)

im tired of talking..

why can we do both. I mention before. I like to pursue both tipping like growth and finding our market!

All we do is talk. talk about this talk about that...

Why can we try to do them both. A major project to go to ASIA and the smaller one to spread the tipping of karma.

We form two group of people and start working on it.

I am so tired of talking actions..

Watch. as soon as people will needed to do stuff , you all will disappear!

here is how much our community gets involved. A major issue has been risen by Kosmost. Who will take over our main site. here are some links with 3-4 people replying only!

Karma Services & Property Transition Thread... Who Should Take Over Karma?
http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,624.0.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2g0v6a/karma_services_property_transition_thread_who/

New karma team needed :
http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2fvv2f/new_karma_team_needed/

All i see here is people talk the talk. but don't walk the walk..

So tired of talk about doing stuff. more then 6 months... still talking about doing stuff