Quote from: allyouracid on September 11, 2014, 07:47:56 PM

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So that's two thing a few of us seem to agree on Redmine (project management software) and PR Manager, I guess it's up to the Devs to take the feedback onboard

That seems to be the case...There is a consensus among trusted members about these two matters - Redmine and PR Manager.

Now I know that devs are reading this thread - the ball is in their court now. Let's see if they are willing to include the representative of the community as a PR Manager.

If you check out the screenshot of yesterday's dasource's comments on IRC. He seems to agree that there should be a person in charge of announcements and PR - but he has the doubts that this person might abuse the position - and use it for his own advantage. This is a possibility - that's why we should choose the PR Manager carefully. We should nominate a few trustworthy members of the community and then vote.

we HAD a very good PR guy, coolstoryteller, he set up cloaktalk.org, but he's out of cloak ever since the audit.
kinda like cloako,( the guy formerly with over 30k cloak ) he got disillusioned by the way the devs handled the whole thing and sold it all.
i just remember that line from the movie "jerry mcguire" that goes like this : HELP ME HELP YOU !
I really hope the devs will embrace allyouracid's idea, and yes, all this turmoil COULD have been avoided.
it sucks to witness people like coolstoryteller and cloako go from one extreme to the other, when, if we'd just calm down the rewards could be life changing.......and it would really help investors calm down if we had an intermediary who knows his stuff. cloak COULD eventually be in the the top 5, or better Wink

but not never with this kind of PR let's do this coin justice and fix this

I need to say my piece here. The dev team could do with someone dealing with communications however there's no way that they need a project manager. That's just a knee jerk reaction to the deadline slipping, please give the team some space and let them work. Giving them an ultimatum about accepting a PM is just impatient.

For some reason people think by owning a few cloak they can dictate to the devs, try looking at it from their perspective, they have put a lot of hard work and the people criticizing them have not.

You seem to forget that those "knee jerkers" are the one who carry the whole project. What is a coin which noone owns? And regarding that, there are indeed some responsibilities towards the community. This has nothing, yeah, nothing to do with either dictating or knee jerking.

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Putting money into a coin IS work. Or do you think our money grows on trees? With money comes responsibility, so I think we can at least demand that tiny bit that we do demand...

I disagree, yes the community supports the coin by buying it, its ridiculous to compare this to development work. if you really wanted to help them offer the help behind closed doors, didn't you think about doing that? Posting here only turns into a negative if they don't accept or respond.

Suggesting project management is not a tiny demand.