Quote from: Este Nuno on September 14, 2014, 11:11:24 AM

Quote from: supranetico on September 14, 2014, 08:51:42 AM

Quote from: Este Nuno on September 13, 2014, 08:48:01 PM

Can you elaborate why you believe all of the above statements to be true in plain english without resorting to childish name calling?

If wanting to know the truth makes me a "do gooder" then so be it.

I said you weren't telling the truth in the post where you claimed that "he has asked for 500 BTC for "2000 BTC worth" of his own assets." when you know that isn't what is happening. Do you feel that your post that I called out as not truthful was a honest post that attempted to portray the situation accurately?

Ok missed this one. I have already posted the facts from my side and my belief stems from that. Facts about how he holds most of his own assets, and how his claim of 4x returns for "investors" in sharkfund0, considering there weren't many investors (he holds nearly 60% of the issue) are enough.

If you feel that no it doesn't then thats your prerogative ....

and this has been clarified over time again and again. You still ask me "can you elaborate" making me repeat it again makes you a moron - call it childish name calling if you will.

I dint call you a "do gooder" rather I called you a moron and a SuperNEt supporter who is trying to act like a "do gooder". It just goes to show that your comprehension skills need work.

Now with the last para, I have to ask this. Do you not understand english or follow logic in your land where you belong?

English-wise, that is called an omission, though it happened unintentionally, it is just an omission. Not a lie.

Logic-wise, anyone who is going to read "asking 500 BTC for 2000 BTC worth of asset" is going to get curious and check jl777's post. There he/she will come to know about the "performance" string attached? Or do you think people in BCT are such idiots that they will take statements of a "newbie account" as the gospel truth? If you think that, then yes you are a moron (forgive me again for the childish name calling Wink

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Edit: And then there is this - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=780833.0
Let me count the number of projects under "jl777 banner" (banner cause no one should call me a liar for omitting that he has a "team" Tongue

) or how many pies he has his finers in:
Working/worked on

Privatebet (part of NXTPrivacy)
cryptocard (part of NXTPrivacy)
SuperNet
InstantDex
Tradebot
BTCD Teleport
subatomic?
MGW -- only thing which is currently live

Managing/giving advice:
sharkfund0
Atomic
jl77hodl
NxtVenture

Yep nothing can go wrong.

I don't know much about sharkfund0 but if I remember correctly I think it was mentioned that it held 10% of BTCD and 10% of BBR. And considering BTCD has gone from nothing to top 10 market cap crypto and BBR recently went up over 10x it doesnt' sound too unrealistic that sharkfund0 did in fact go up 400%. I wish I was one of the people who had a part of that 40% of sharkfund0 to be honest.

I didn't call you a liar, I said you were not being truthful with your statement. If you're saying that you omitted that because you misunderstood what James was offering then that's fine.

And I do think think that people will take the statements of a newbie account at face value without investigating the truth behind them. This thread is a perfect example of people doing just that. People will do that when it's what they've wanted believe all along anyway, and as soon as they see someone else writing the things they want to believe they form an opinion based on that. If everyone on here took the time to investigate what was true and what was false we probably wouldn't have thousands of altcoins and scams going on every week. But people just believe whatever makes them feel better about themselves.

SuperNET sounds too good to be true when you first hear about it. And it's possible that it is too good to be true and it never works out the way it's supposed to. Nothing is guaranteed. If James hadn't created the MGW and written 40,000 lines of code(his words) since spring I wouldn't be interested in the idea. But this seems to be an interesting case where you have someone with both the ideas and the apparent technical skill to make them happen. Lots of people have ideas, but it's rare when you have someone who can actually build things as well.

Anyone who wants to invest in superNET should do their own research. It's more akin to a start up company as someone had mentioned earlier. Its intention is to generate revenue and profit. What ever incentives people feel are best suited to them getting the largest return on their investment are what they should vote for with their TOKENs or UNITY shares.

Ok, let me stop calling you names and answer this.

Lets talk point by point. BBR and BTCD were simply "pumped" because they were participating in a "super duper secret" project. I cant tell but are you being serious about "being part of the 40%"? I rather wish I held more BBR and BTCD - they wud have given me 10x returns than 400? See why I say you are biased? You would rather wish for a route to suck up to jl777 than take the most profitable route.

Secondly, "not telling the truth" = lying. God whats with your english? And read again, I said the omission was unintentional, not the fact that I did not understand jl777's grand plan. I think this is the easiest defense of a SuperNet support - you don't understand jl777's vision, well so be it.

Now I have to give props to you. So you reach a conclusion that "everyone in jl777's thread" has understood that he has fingers in all the pockets and owns most of his own assets. But you don't believe people can do their own research? See again why I say you are a biased observer? Everyone who supports jl777 is a maths genius who knows all his dealings + understand "his vision" but rest of bitcointalk people are fools.

This thread you say? Lets count for and against people (other than me):
Against SuperNetico:
50cent_rapper
Mrrr
vuduchyld
Come-In-Behind
Skinnkavaj
nakasat
Zer0Sum

For SuperNetICO:
Stealthcoin
Hotmetal
torshammer
noashh
Este Nuno
positivehigh
Zer0Sum

ie 7-7. Number of posts? Well you do the maths there. So, I see where you are going with this...making me use the childish insults again....cant control it...you moron, get off you high horse. You are no causal observer with no leanings. You are free to state your opinion on the matter but stop trying to make yourself look foolish.

Again, last two paras are your opinion, specially with a weak reasoning - his words. eh? So I guess jl777 is Jesus for you. But I am not going to ask "show me the proof" thats your belief and let it be.