Quote from: B4zz4 on September 16, 2014, 04:04:51 AM

Quote from: vegasguy on September 16, 2014, 02:15:17 AM

Quote from: Kuriso on September 16, 2014, 01:59:05 AM

So what does the community want?

Devs delivered what they said they would and no one is happy with it. Delivery is never enough. Crypto traders will never be happy. They will always want something more. Then they will hope it will bring a good pump so they can dump. Look at all the coins that deliver on the promises and then get dumped to shit. Super is no different. That's where it is now. Devs delivered, there was a decent pre-pump and a weak pump upon release and now yall are dumping.

You think PoD will turn price around?
Will a code review be enough?
Do you think going open source will be enough?
Do you think new community leaders will be enough?
Should they spend $5k, $10k, $20k, or more on hiring a marketing firm?

Naw, nothing above will change a damn thing for the long term. You know why? Because you freaking people will never be happy with that. You will always want more. Once the next reason to pump and dump fades you will look for something else to whine about.

You fight among yourselves and argue about what you think devs should be doing. You send a horrible message to future investors and weak handed investors. Devs can only do so much. A devs job is to develop the freaking coin. You need the community to work together for marketing and promotions, new ideas, growth, and support. At the end of the day, the community needs to be strong enough to support the coin or it all falls to shit. The Super community is falling apart and so is everything else.

You've got two choices, either pull the community together and grow or dump the damn thing and gtfo.

** THIS WONT FIX ITSELF!! , and the devs wont fix it , if we just stand around and whine, it will continue to crumble **

Its true there is only one way out of this thing. We need to coordinate a strong buy pump, and NO HARD dumping!! We need to get a buy momentum back and change the direction of this thing. We need to set a date, have your BTC ready. It will take ALL of us to do this!! The super community are good people. We CAN do this!!! Not only will you buy cheap super along the way , but it will stablize the price back to 2000 sat. If you want out, that fine, sell slowly , and in smaller amounts across a few days or if we all dump, we all fall. Lets complie a list of users and set an exact date and time. If we wait much longer , were dead. Do NOT look to the devs, they have made it clear, we are on our own. Frankly I like the fact the devs have given away control to the community , and allowing us to choose the direction of this coin. The devs gave up the wheel to us, they are gone now, if we dont take the wheel and get it back under control , its gonna crash worse. If we stay true to each other and buy loads at cheap prices , we can make more than we even started with!!! The answer is in US.

Vegas

Whatsup fullofgasguy a.k.a. "vegas"? Not happy reaping what you have sown?

This price crash is directly attributable to you, not the dev team.

You incorrectly ~~thought~~ claimed you'd been "robbed" of staked coin interest at the fork. You wouldn't listen or couldn't understand when it was explained to you that you hadn't lost coin age and would end up with exactly the same net interest over time. You threw a major tantrum claiming the dev team "owed you 27K" as I recall. You deliberately began a campaign to destroy the coin's value by constantly downselling. You've been constantly white-anting the dev team and stirring dissent making ridiculous demands.

You and everyone else bought into this coin under a set of conditions:

The devs were not identifying themselves - a non-issue since they have proven themselves over time delivering a really good coin and constantly improving it.
There was no ICO so, like every other coin at the time it was simply mine at your risk and buy or don't as is.
The code was not being made open source for the foreseeable future to prevent copy-paste clones diluting Super's market value.
It is not and never has been the devs' function to improve your holding's value, they develop the coin - for free basically, save for donations.
This is not a public company and you are not a shareholder. You have no "rights" and have no say in what the devs do, how, why or when.

Now, if the world worked the way you want it to work for you vegasguy, YOU owe all SuperCoin holders for the loss of value you caused. There's actually a much stronger case for this than your ridiculous claims of the devs owing you.

I really hope you have learned from this but somehow I doubt it. Frankly you appear to be a case of an empty head making the most noise.

Everyone else who dogpiled on to the same silly claims of "needed identity" and "code revue" had a hand in wrecking market confidence too.

For those of you looking for "someone to blame" read back over vegasguy's posts and see what he has done for you and SuperCoin.

Remember that you chose to acquire this coin by mining or purchase and with that acquisition comes just one right, the right to decide whether to hold or sell. Under no circumstance does it mean the devs work for you.

I hope the dev team are very forgiving and choose to continue with this coin but who could blame them for saying the abuse just isn't worth it?

I was initially upset that an error on their code caused me to loose coins. I raised hell and demanded that they send me the 27,000 coins. As the days went on, the price remained stable, and devs ignored me, and I screamed LOUD! Some users sympathized with me, while others attacked me and accused me of fud. My goal at that time was to hold the superteam accountable, and make them pay for my losses. Thats it. But along the way I found something VERY VERY interesting, and its this.. when the shit hits the fan, the devs disappear. I then began to warn all members that this is a VERY bad sign. I got over my loss , and let it go, and prices remained stable. I checked my posts and the charts on the same day, and everything was as normal. No harm done. This you can check too. A few members reminded me that I need to chill out because all of this negativity could hurt coins value. At that moment I dropped the issue. I wasnt even part of ANY of the posts demanding pod. Not even that the user that initially asked for pod should be blamed either. In fact, the devs have been working on this so long, I didnt feel a pod was even needed. I only hold 50,000 coins, and thats a drop in the bucket for me. However I am a born leader, and have done very well in many ventures, and own brick and mortoar businesses in Las Vegas. So I understand money. I was here to simply offer my expertise as I happen to like many of the community members, and many of them are looking for help, and the devs are gone. If you read my previous posts from today, Im just here offering my help. Im not upset, Im sad for those that have lost, and cant afford the loss. Thats it. If anyone is spreading fud and rude remarks its you. If you want to help the situation with intelligent suggestions, then do, otherwise please leave us so we can try to fix this.

UPDATE: OMG, I just read your 100's of posts, and YOU are on the Superteam, NO QUESTION! Your posts are FULL of pictures about super this and super that , there are hundereds!! You have posted announcements and changes , and updates before anyone else. So question you fucking coward, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU NOT HELPING YOUR COMMUINITY AND HIDING BEHIND ANOTHER NAME?!!? I DIDNT fuck up your coin, YOU did by ignoring the users and investors that have trusted you. Worse than that you write like your 14... ohh this is worse than I thought , it TOTALLY explains the avoidance of POD.. it ALL fits! Would YOU invest your money with this kid? Superteam KNEW that if THIS ever got out, its over! Read his posts and then decide. YOU have HUNDEREDS of posts on Bitcoin talk and EVERY last one of them promotes supercoin. There is not 1 post about another coin.

This is a copy and paste of his very last post. Does THIS comment sounds like a regular user, or a Dev that is REALLY speaking his mind, and saying what he REALLY thinks?!!?

"Remember that you chose to acquire this coin by mining or purchase and with that acquisition comes just one right, the right to decide whether to hold or sell. Under no circumstance does it mean the devs work for you."

Heres another:

"If you had $100,000 would you invest $1000 to make it $1,000,000?

Of course you would! It's a no-brainer!

Donate NOW for Supercoin promos"

Heres a post from June of 2014: Does THIS sound like a regular user/miner/investor or a dev?

"For those who dont know what went down, Ill summarize. SuperCoin won the voting to be included on Poloniex (what an honor!) Instead of playing his role and facilitating trade for SUPER Busoni instead decided to reject their inclusion and make this antagonistic public post:

MAX_MONEY is pretty much what it sounds like. This means that the actual maximum supply of SuperCoin is 150 million, not 50 million. Furthermore, the maximum PoW coins is 50 million, rather than the claimed 18.2 million. The 150 million number appears twice in the code, so it can hardly be considered an accident.

We did not find evidence of an existing hidden premine, but extra coins could potentially be minted all at once at the end of the PoW phase, sent to exchanges via the anon feature, and dumped.

We have other concerns about the coin, particularly concerning the proposed method of anonymity, but the shenanigans with the maximum supply is sufficient for us to reject this coin.

For the first time in Altcoin History (and in the history of Poloniex) he decided to check the code and reject an inclusion AFTER his customers voted for the coin. Actually, he admitted later he didnt check the code, but you get the idea.
Busoni Busts SuperCoin But Doesnt Provide Proof

The big problem with the post was he didnt actually catch SuperCoin doing anything wrong that should have precluded them from being listed on his exchange. In general, altcoin exchanges should be HAPPY to list altcoins. After all, trading fees are how they earn their money. Wouldnt it make more sense to do all you can to work to work with a coin Dev to make sure that trading can be handled in a smooth manner. Weve seen plenty of examples in recent days that show this is not the case. Altcoin exchanges are happy to accept the fees, but will not expend even ONE IOTA of energy to communicate with coin teams or to protect investors from scams.

Oh, youre probably thinkingbut thats exactly what Busoni was doing here. As part of his self-proclaimed effort to raise the bar for shitcoins hes now reviewing the code to make sure he doesnt get taken advantage of. Sounds great, in theory. If there actually was a transparent process of review that included appeals and arbitration maybe that would be the case.
However, with a dictatorship thats not possible. In the current era, what Busoni the unknown man says goes. His word is law and if you dont like it you can always trade at one of the other 42 altcoin exchanges in existence."

Does the above posts sound like they came from a regular user or a dev?

Ive said it before on this forum, Im the last cat you want to ever tangle with. Pick someone else , TRUST ME! YOU are the reason your coin went to the shitter, because your werent man enough to face your investors, instead you hid behind a fake name. When they called for POD, you ran like a little bitch. Your a coward. Simple as that. I hesitated before posted this as I dont want to crash the price, but it doesnt much matter, coin is already fucked and is sitting at 421 on Rex now. Frankly , now the truth is out, you may as well do the POD, as it the only thing that might save this coin. I think you owe that to your investors that have trusted you. If you show some more maturity, nodoby will care about your age. Well.. now you guys know the truth, and sorry it came out the way it did.

Vegas