Quote from: Rassah on September 19, 2014, 05:39:39 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 19, 2014, 05:24:52 AM

Quote from: Rassah on September 18, 2014, 06:22:58 PM

Quote from: BADecker on September 18, 2014, 06:01:56 PM

The evidence for God is great. The fact that most of people in the world believe in God or a god, is in itself great evidence. The machine quality of the universe suggests a Maker.

Most people in the world believed the world was flat. That didn't turn out to be great evidence.

That was 500 years ago. Five hundred years from now scientists will be amazed at the silly things scientists of the 21st century believed.

But pretty sure they won't be thinking 2,000 year old beliefs are LESS silly Wink

Quote from: BADecker on September 19, 2014, 05:26:56 AM

Quote from: Rakitich on September 18, 2014, 08:03:55 PM

Kinda pointless, cant prove such a thing scientifically.

Yes, but some people are going to keep on trying, just like some scientists keep on trying to prove something as silly as evolution.

Scientists aren't trying to prove evolution. First, they don't have to, and second, that's not how science works. Christian "science" gets an idea or an assumption and tries to prove or disprove it. Real actual science doesn't start with ideas or assumptions. It tests and collects data, and makes conclusions based on that data, whatever those conclusions may be. So, for example, christian "science" will start with the assumption that the earth is 6,000 years old, and will look specifically for evidence to support it. Actual science will make no assumptions about the age of the planet, and will take all evidence into consideration, regardless of what it says about the earth's age. That's why scientists don't need to prove evolution. The evidence they collect just keeps pointing to it already.

I disagree that there are scientists that aren't trying to prove their own beliefs. Many (not all of course) do throw out evidence that points towards intelligent design, for example. They filter everything from that lens and are often close minded to anything that points towards that. Also, they come up with their own theories, not based on an observable evidence, for evolution but this is based on "faith" too. They have not observed the big bang have they? But they believe it as fact, when indeed it isn't a proven fact. It is even taught as a fact to students today in many schools and that, to me, is a travesty. It needs to be taught as it really is, a theory! The act of even questioning the big bang causes these scientist to look down with their noses high in the air like whoever would dare question that is an idiot.