Quote from: FelixOliver on September 19, 2014, 09:42:32 PM

Quote from: itod on September 19, 2014, 09:33:02 PM

Quote from: johnczekko on September 19, 2014, 08:22:47 PM

This lesson cost me 0.5 BTC and the time to write down this post. I won't get them back, but the least I can do is to warn other people not to make the same mistake as I did.

Judge for yourself, but my advice is clear: Stay away from RyanPumper and others alike and certainly don't pay him/them anything.

Appreciate very much that you swallowed your pride and admitting a loss to save others from this Ryan scammer. I hope others will read carefully and not learn on their own skin. If you need something to verify after Ryan denies everything (which he will certainly try) just PM me.

Are you a part of the group?

Quote from: Viper1 on September 19, 2014, 09:39:25 PM

So back on the 5th, "Ryan" sent some people a pick privately and said to buy under a certain price. If you did though, you quickly watched the price drop and, if you would have used stop loss orders etc, you would have been at a loss. Couple days later, he sends out an update saying him and his group are in control of the coin and he gives a price range to buy into which is much lower than that first price. Thing is, the coin never dropped to that level (had open buy orders just above his upper limit) when it finally started rising. If you had bought in at the first price, the coin never went high enough to reach the gains he said it would. And since it never dropped to the next level he said to buy in at, you wouldn't have got the gains either. I did make some money though as I just played it on my own.

The end result though is that it lead me to believe that he was just hot air as he didn't control the coin the way he claimed they would and so when he came out with his group, there's no way I'd join it. Better to go with someone like Bob where you know exactly what he does and form what I can see, he delivers.

I just went and checked the charts again for that coin and it appears his first entry price was basically to get people in so he could dump on them. There was another coin suggestion as well and when I looked at the chart last night, I noticed the same sort of thing. I had bought in where he suggested and watched it drop. I suspect he gave the pick in order to get more in to sell off his position. I was able to hedge my "bet" though so was able to minimize my loss. Checking the times on his PM to me, I find that it's right after both coins had been pumped up to a high. Originally I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but now I'm convinced he's bogus.

So anyone that is going to pay him should be very careful.

The trading advice in the thread has been good though.

What was the pick? and I hope you have proof?

or are you just shilling for bobsurplus?

BTW: Bob doesn't provide as much - or any - value to the market like Ryan does. I have learned a shit load just from reading this thread alone.

Please don't be talking shit about me. You have no clue how I run my groups nor how much they have learned by joining.