Quote from: rpietila on September 23, 2014, 10:16:05 AM

Since the MEW is also established today, I may quote the relevant part of what we believe is the right way to handle these.

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MEW has zero-tolerance on actual crimes, violence, deception, coercion, and scamming, in all their forms, by any individuals or groups. Members caught doing such things will be exposed and, if necessary, expelled.

These are the behavior that we acknowledge to be crimes. They are condemned.

MEW does not however have legal or practical jurisdiction to prosecute crimes against MEW or its members, except by other members who have bound themselves to such arbitration by joining MEW.

If actual crimes are committed against us, MEW may apply to outside LEO. After all, their purpose is to find and punish criminals, whereas MEW can effectively only find and expose them. In some cases exposing may not be enough. If we choose not to apply, the reason is more practical than ideological. LEO's do not have a great track record in solving cybercrimes in an equitable way.

This what top-down organization forces, a guaranteed collective hell. I will prefer bottom-up freedom.

Electronic stuff is just a game. You can still eat even you lose all your electronic digits. jesus said...

Matthew 6:25-34 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
Put Gods Kingdom First

25 So I tell you, dont worry about the things you need to livewhat you will eat, drink, or wear. Life is more important than food, and the body is more important than what you put on it. 26 Look at the birds. They dont plant, harvest, or save food in barns, but your heavenly Father feeds them. Dont you know you are worth much more than they are? 27 You cannot add any time to your life by worrying about it.

28 And why do you worry about clothes? Look at the wildflowers in the field. See how they grow. They dont work or make clothes for themselves. 29 But I tell you that even Solomon, the great and rich king, was not dressed as beautifully as one of these flowers. 30 If God makes what grows in the field so beautiful, what do you think he will do for you? Its just grassone day its alive, and the next day someone throws it into a fire. But God cares enough to make it beautiful. Surely he will do much more for you. Your faith is so small!

31 Dont worry and say, What will we eat? or What will we drink? or What will we wear? 32 Thats what those people who dont know God are always thinking about. Dont worry, because your Father in heaven knows that you need all these things. 33 What you should want most is Gods kingdom and doing what he wants you to do. Then he will give you all these other things you need. 34 So dont worry about tomorrow. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Tomorrow will have its own worries.

Quote from: TheFascistMind on September 23, 2014, 12:15:17 PM

Quote from: Nekomata on September 23, 2014, 12:12:32 PM

The only "criminal" on this thread so far is BCX for his threatens and the DDOS attack, you sir are a fool.

I hope you don't get angry at me, because I know he threatened that which you are invested.

But I don't want to be a crime. I think we ought to leave everything as fair play that doesn't involve physical violence or physical force. I think electronic theft should not be a crime. I rather put the onus on each person to protect their assets.

I love freedom too much. Personal responsibility is the only way to have freedom.

Physical violence is different, because we don't want to live physically in a fortress.

Quote from: TheFascistMind on September 23, 2014, 10:54:10 AM

Quote from: oliveforever on September 23, 2014, 10:43:57 AM

Market manipulation and stock fraud are also crimes.

I hope we can create an anonymous world where they are not provable crimes.

Humans are always competing in any way they can. This is nature. Nature is not a crime. It just is.

No one forced you to invest. It is your job to discern fact from hype...

...I prefer my freedom (to destroy myself), than a guarantee hell of collective insurance.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin