Quote from: SeaofBTC on September 25, 2014, 12:16:13 AM

Quote from: professionalboatmisser on September 24, 2014, 07:02:52 PM

Most of us in western society understand as fundamental what is perfect explained in Maslow's piramid. You need MONEY for these. If your only income is your shitty job, you are shit out of luck. Unless you have SAVINGS, you can't just simply quit and "start your own business", that's unrealistic. You are a slave of your own work, if you don't agree, you've never been in that position or you were the small % that go nuts, quit their job, take a loan, and get a successfull business going (the small %, statistically). Poster SeaofBTC is delusional.

Alright, sure, if you cannot spell successful it'll be hard on you. I'm not delusional, you're just a coward.

Plenty of careers to choose from, many of which are not laborious or 9-5 sludge. Check out working for a startup, working for a beach rental company, working for a non-profit... lots of non-conventional employment.

If you still aren't happy, start your own business. You wont starve to death in the USA or most first-world countires. The only reason people beg on the side of the road is for money to buy drugs or alcohol, or they are a part of a crime ring being forced to do it, not really for food... or they are just mentally disabled, or do not know they can just go to a shelter. If you need food, you go to a church, shelter, or soup kitchen.

If you aren't happy with the capitalist American way, you have many choices. If you want a more conservative culture, you have many options, a great place for a conservative right now is Australia.

If you are looking for more of a liberal place, check out northern Europe.

If you are looking for a socialist welfare state, check out China or Cuba.

If you want lack of materialism, join an Amish society, or check out some of the Mexican Tribes, or rain forest tribes.

If you want solitude and complete independence, look into subsistence farming, and live in the mountains off the land.

If you want anarchy, check out this list of anarchist communities: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anarchist_communities

If you want lack of materialism, and are annoyed at the amish, become a monk. There are many sects, some are not even religious. The main idea here is to give up all material possessions.

If you just are looking to feel bad for yourself, to complain just to complain, and you're too lazy to just change your life, then keep on posting.

Quote from: manselr on September 24, 2014, 09:57:45 PM

Most people aren't and its difficult to break the wageslave loophole.

Wageslave loophole? How does one "break" a loophole? C'mon people, you're just throwing out words that sound good now.

Unless you are part of the socio-economic elite I cant understand why you are in such support of an exploitative system that at its heart is against you and your classes interest. Capitalism siphons capital and resources into the hands of the few at the expense of the many. There is no debating this. It is a fact of capitalism that wealth becomes ever more concentrated over time. The only reason you are such an adamant supporter of this system is because you believe in the possibility of upward mobility. This is what the elites want you to believe, that everyone and his brother can obtain a better standard of life if only he works HARD ENOUGH; The American Dream baby. However, like the poster above mentioned - you don't make millions working hard, you make millions for others while you work hard for them. The surplus value of your labor power is what is called profit, and profit is made through exploitation, and its not the elite who are getting exploited its YOU my friend. Yes, capitalism seems alright for the middle class as they make what now seems to be decent wages and there standard of living is pretty good and there's still that possibility of moving up the social ladder. However, if you look at the statistics the middle class is shrinking more and more and people are experiencing downward mobility. The possibility of moving up the socio-economic ladder is slim to none for the vast majority. And no its not because people are lazy, or because they don't work hard enough. Its because those at the top of the system want to protect their wealth, status, and power at the expense of yours.

How many are on food stamps now in the United States? What is it 50million now? Gee, if only they all worked harder. Or better yet why don't they all just jump over the ocean to Australia; oh wait that costs money too.