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Blackcoin was actually pumped the second time cryptorush was hacked aswell. It doesnt mean Cryptorush team was behind it though

Who knows what really happened.

And yet you make comments that give the appearance you have the whole thing figured out in your head. This is EXACTLY what I was referring to. You obviously have nothing to contribute other than fud, nor do you have any way of knowing what really happened unless you are the one behind the theft of coins. Kindly take your nonsense elsewhere while we do as we have promised and return to users what they are due.

For those who are still unaware, our CEO KingDragon will be giving a presentation in October detailing the theft earlier this year. Here is the link with details: http://grrcon.com/presentations/

You gonna return my 50.000 BC stolen? Are you? Well my balance only shows 28k BC now, and your Cryptorush bonds suck just like you do.
You are not repaying anything here, you are creating a bond with no value at all and you call that a repayment?
Get lost would ya?

Take the FUDDING elsewhere, CR will buy back the bonds with revenues at a 1 to 1 ratio. Bonds only give you ANOTHER option of cashing / pulling out under the 1 to 1 value.
Contribute or get lost yourself, would you?

Bonds give me ANOTHER option? No, Bonds give only ONE OPTION.
CR will buy back the bonds with revenues at a 1 to 1 ratio: Will they? And when is that going to happen? In a year or 2 or who knows?

You said you all know who stole the coins .. some kid in a basement living with his mom?

I want to know his name, address and i want a picture of him posted here.
I will do the rest.
Maybe i can stick my CR Bonds up his asshole right?

Finally there are people able to actually do something. I fear your anger is going in the wrong direction. It is necessary to sum up the results of the current situation with CR 1.0. First. Three former owners raised funds amounting to at least half a million dollars. Intentionally or not, these funds are lost. No one is held accountable for it. Second. Known and feels fine one of the former owners. It even helps in the work of the new team. Here you can find information about it bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624588.60. He is within the reach of the police visit. The rest of the owners why it is silent. Do you believe that they do not know each other http://trilema.com/2014/robert-keith-cristopher-jr-matt-sartain-kristian-thomson-cryptorush-much-comedy-lulzgoldmine/. I will not speak their minds because the answer is to give only the court. Third. Launched the official version about a hacker from the basement which apparently confirmed by log files CR 1.0. Apparently this will speak at the conference KD. Exclude any such version complicity owners.Cancels this fact responsible for bad defense. This is another question that can be answered only by the court. Fourth. New command CR 2.0 is working to return the money. Six months is collecting donations. Six months frozen coins that were not stolen. It is clear that you need the money for new infrastructure and salaries. But no real satoshi not returned. Just built a new Ponzi scheme. Is not such activity is only an attempt to cover their tracks. Another question. And finally the fifth. Regardless of how the situation will develop activities CR 1.0 should be subject to transparent proceedings. Too flourished weeds around crypto.

Finally someone that has all the information together! Thanks for your reply.

Yeah i knew that CR collected funds and donations for repayment .. and i was wondering where those funds were.
So this is a double theft so far, the hack and the repayment money, wow ... there is nothing else to say here.

And thanks for the Link, http://trilema.com/2014/robert-keith-cristopher-jr-matt-sartain-kristian-thomson-cryptorush-much-comedy-lulzgoldmine/

Feels like talking to a wall but here we go once again...

1) The current team that stood up from the community have nothing to do with the previous owners. We took over the name and the debt of the previous owners in an effort to reimburse every user that was hit by the hacks that happened before we took it over.

Since then everything is build from the ground up, all CR 1.0 servers and services were canceled and a brand new infrastructure was build. This includes contacting ISO certified datacenters, setting up servers and working out the technical details of building it all together with security being on the top of the list.

Your point in half a million dollars, i believe you are referring to the intermediate owner 'Fyrstikken' that released teh news of him buying up 50% of all CRS at the release price of 1800 satoshi that counted up towards the half a million dollars. I myself wasn't involved during this time but from my understanding there was never a transaction made to back this up. In short, there never was half a million dollars raised.

2) Regarding previous owners, we do have one contact from CR 1.0, which is LinkandZelda. He has no access what so ever to the new systems and is only here because he volunteered to be available should we have any questions regarding the CR 1.0 systems. This is something link himself proposed and something we did not ask of him to do. He was broken to see what the outcome was from the hack and wants to make it right, hence why he didnt run away with what was left after the hacks.

3) During GRRCon, the current CEO will be releasing the details of the hack and security exploits that were used during the CR 1.0 attacks, this will be recorded for those that are unable to attend the conference themselves. Should time allow it and people are genuine capable of asking well formed questions instead of FUD we might even consider adding a Q&A afterwards. However, our primary goal is getting the exchange running and all coins reimbursed.

4) Donations. Yes, we are collecting donations, and to be honest I wish there was more in the donation jar than that there is now. However, every satoshi is a satoshi. For transparency sake and 'proving' your ill formed accusations wrong i'll request the donation address to be listed on the website so you can check the funds coming in to those addresses via an independent third party block explorer.

5) Infrastructure costs. You accusing us without evidence of using other peoples funds for paying salaries and using it to cover costs fundamentally upsets me because i'm one of the members paying the bills from my own pockets to make this a reality. Regarding salaries, give me a break, no one on the team has received a satoshi for his efforts so far. Why do you think things are going slow? There's not that many people willing to work for a cause of reimbursing people that got hit due to other people. We're doing this for no salary, keeping the lights on from our own pockets in the effort of reimbursing every person that got hit and afterwards, yes, we hope we can finally take out a 'salary'.

6) Reimbursements
- Coins that are completely solvent will be released in time
- Coins that are completely insolvent and coins that are partially solvent will be released and the remainder that's not available will be transfered to the BTC / LTC bonds option. This is a free market so that those that do trust us and are willing to take a risk can accumulate the debt from others. At the same time this provides a way out for people that do not trust us.

7) Next time you make any more accusations of us stealing I would like to ask you of bringing more to the table then just words and old articles or threads that only talk and speculate about the previous owners. With that being said i'll look into releasing / stating the donation addresses on the website publicly so you can all check the donation numbers and see that there is no donation stolen. Apart from that I'll discus the options of releasing the total % of each coin that are still present in the current system, left/taken over from CR 1.0.

EDIT:
Donation addresses (these been in our IRC topic for months now... but, well, details, right?)
BTC 1Jwa7a4mi2VSGqkRNz4BHC1v26NsyVsH5M LTC LQdZQuismNMRqJGpUweCt9x27zbTeAngc6 DOGE DHC5Ku3Ho1rpDvdG3iHzSoXxcjSnhB6WWx CNO UPX3SAj9FsByXMbW3314td2js1RtUWoSVk

I see my post got the address. Please note that I spoke softly as possible and do not blame anyone. Still wish the new team to pay off debts and move on. However, there are questions for you. The first and foremost question. How there was a transfer of the rights to the cr 1.0 cr 2.0. It can not be that you are a completely new team. Based on what you've got access to the old server. The second question.Why do you gain access to information not immediately returned balances and still do not do it. You do not need a working website and voting lists. Only one computer and one working day. Or you do not want to do it or you do not have all these multiple coins. If the old stock exchange is not traded against traders all coins must be in place. Why you do not get the wrong coin for several months. The third question. As for donations. This is not the one BTC. Enough to follow the twitter KD. On a good day received more than 6 BTC. Why none satoshi of these funds did not go to the awards. One day is enough subsidies to close all the glass for sale CRB today. That's all. I do not want to offend a new team. This is only a response to your post.