Quote from: bholzer on September 28, 2014, 08:05:27 AM

Quote from: syncsam on September 28, 2014, 02:23:22 AM

all I can say is read the thread, How long did the community try and get in touch with them for??? and then all they have come out and said is the same thing as 5 weeks ago

and if you read back at all my posts in this thread I have never asked for them to post every week, all I have asked for is some professionalism

What was the community trying to get in touch with them about? I guess I missed something. Every time I've seen something that required them to communicate with the community they were here (given I'm sure I've missed several pages throughout this thread).

Yes - they said the same thing as 5 weeks ago because, as they said, that's all there is to say. Obviously it's not what anybody wants to hear but if there is nothing new for them to add... and everybody is screaming for them to post... I guess they're damned if they do damned if they don't, right? They aren't trying to fool anybody and they've made it very clear that they don't expect you to be 100% on board until they actually start to deliver. Now they're working on the new client as well - let them do their work. What the hell have you done lately?

Also, I read back a whole 3 posts to find this:

Quote from: syncsam on September 28, 2014, 02:05:26 AM

I smell more bullsh*t

Quote from: OctoCoin on September 28, 2014, 12:25:38 AM

... typically visit at least two times each week. ...

you just have to read the last few months thread posts to realise that that is bullish*t

add to that its the same as what they said last time and look how that turned out

They said that they, "typically visit at least two times each week" - as Shell said, they never claimed to have posted two times each week. Obviously they wouldn't say that since they clearly haven't been - there isn't two things to post every week! If you had included a more complete quote, it would make even more sense:

Quote from: OctoCoin on September 28, 2014, 12:25:38 AM

We read every post in this thread and typically visit at least two times each week. When we have worthwhile updates to provide, we will always provide them. Once our credibility grows, updates with less substance will provide benefit where they currently do not.

They are acknowledging that they have limited credibility until they deliver what they have promised. They say they visit the thread often and read all of the posts. This is simply a reading comprehension issue. You misunderstood their post and you misunderstood Shell's post. I think you're letting your frustration get in the way of accurate processing.

I just don't understand the motivation to derail this entire thread with angry posts and nonsense - it's you guys bombarding the thread with this crap that are weakening the community and the value as much as anything. You induce panic which does absolutely nothing constructive. You scare away anybody new that comes here and sees instability and friction. You demand updates... yet when they provide what updates they can you flip out because you aren't satisfied. Some of you guys are obviously clueless when it comes to the software world - everything is always behind schedule. The deeper you get into a project the more areas you want to perfect. The original iPhone was over a year behind schedule, OS X took 2 years longer to complete than originally estimated - if you've ever worked with programmers, these guys a notoriously optimistic when it comes to release dates.

Before you post some angry rant in here, ask yourself, "what good is this going to do for OctoCoin and its community?" I simply don't understand being a blatant asshole and twisting words around/etc trying to derail the entire thread - I truly don't. I'm sorry you misunderstood the post but you are feeling negative about this thing and you surely aren't going to post anything positive. I don't understand the point in trying to freak everyone out with constant complaining and rants. I'll never understand the motivation to unnecessarily destabilize a community you are a part of - I really won't. We're all in this together man and of course it's frustrating to wait and wonder but not nearly as frustrating as reading your posts. Take a step back and regroup - why do you want to drive a stake through this community? I'm just trying to understand the thought process here - short of simply being malicious, nothing really computes.

They're busting their ass while you're sitting around whining. Nothing they can say will satisfy you so quit asking them to say anything before they're ready! When these guys make you a bunch of money you better kiss their feet.

I think much of the frustration and thirst for contact / news is a symptom of the modern world we live in with 24 hour rolling news updates and always on internet connectivity. We've been conditioned to want and to crave constant reassurance, terror, euphoria, satisfaction, validation, etc.

I'm guilty of it myself, I try not to be but its hard not to get sucked in, especially when you have something to lose or gain. It was the promise of good things to come and the ambition of the dev team that drew us in and banded us all together, it's the bad things and the prolonged silences that fuel the self defeating forum tourettes.

Either Octocoin will reach dizzy heights or it will fail. I don't think there's any middle ground and I don't believe that anything any of us in here say or do will influence the outcome in the long term. That will be determined by what the dev team comes up with in the coming months but there's one thing I still don't understand...

I would be interested in hearing why the devs needed Octocoin as part of their plans? Once it was released into the public domain the distribution of it was largely out of their control, so why Octocoin? is it simply vanity or is the branding crucial? Why not produce all of the other bits and pieces that constitute the "invested" project where the real money is and then when it's ready announce it to the world with an existing alt or bitcoin at its core. That could have been done without the effort needed to create the coin in the first place and cater to a whinging community. This thread now carries history, emotion and baggage that will presumably follow the OctoCoin project?. Yes, the same could be said for bitcoin but it would have been more detached.

I think I'm just going to shut up and sit on my Octo until Christmas, see what transpires.