Quote from: TheLittleDuke on September 29, 2014, 03:53:47 PM

Quote from: mashac on September 29, 2014, 03:08:07 PM

Quote from: TheLittleDuke on September 29, 2014, 01:49:23 PM

In the mean time, my offer to move central services and wallet development into the non-profit Strength in Numbers Foundation is still on the table. You're not going to get any greater transparency than you will find in an IRS-990 form (google it if you need to know what that is)

That's the minimum TRIAGE to set a new foundation. The coin still needs a PURPOSE and a CONSUMER if you want it to have a strategic value and on-going UTILITY.

-David

Can you do this without the permission of current devs? I think otherwise Karma is not going any where..

In theory, other than the issue surrounding the legitimacy of the USPTO Trademark (actually it appears to be a Service Mark designation) -- I think it's possible. See what we did with:

http://karmarewards.me

Over the weekend...

Look familiar? (It should as long as one trusts the completeness of wget -m )

It's just a raw clone, no edits on underlying links yet...

It would be in the communities better interest of course if there was at least an explicit if not tacit secession of power/control/transfer by the current "team" -- if even that means a simple public declaration of support.

The critical components of the core services IMHO are the checkpointing servers. Everything else can run fully de-coupled. I would ask that Andre & Perica step up to share hosting/replication responsibilities with us.

I would propose that we establish a VPN between Strength in Numbers infrastructure and theirs in order to build a stronger Web of Trust.

-dvd

This is just another website. Not much of a service and I don`t see the value for Karma. But maybe I am wrong.
Tell me please, what kind of lessons have you learned from Give coin failure? And how do you intend to not make the same mistakes with Karma? Why do you think GC failed?
What do you think is the most important thing for Karma? Building community or something else? And please, this time don`t quote old marketing books. To some people you sound too naive.
Karma has its purpose and consumers. It lacks core services, good marketing (communication, not building value). It also lost its good side - being good and honest to each other (which includes not trying to hijack something). The most important thing is to build community, followers, believers, not CONSUMERS.
You know, leaders are born that way and can develop their leadership skills until they reach 25 years. After that it is impossible. Are you a leader? Do you have leadership skills? Can you make people follow you? Can you influence people?
And once again, what exactly is stopping you to create service for Karma?
I hope my questions are not too difficult to answer. From time to time I am asking such questions in order to build my opinion. And one more thing - being transparent as a person and/or organization doesn`t bring any value. Nobody cares if you are a person, organization, which is your country of residence, etc. All that matters is the results. Also, do not assume that someone who is declaring his holdings is the bigger Karma stakeholder.

P.S. By knowing kosmost (despite only virtually), I am sure no matter what (all of the insulting, trolling, etc), he will not give any service to anyone who is not having his heart lying with Karma. Keep this in mind.