Quote from: oda.krell on October 04, 2014, 12:11:34 PM

Quote from: inca on October 04, 2014, 12:04:48 PM

Thoughtful post Oda.

But I don't see many bulls voicing that opinion left on the forum either. In fact this downtrend has be dragging on for months and this forum has been an absolute bear fest.

I would probably suggest bringing back newbie jail or suggesting more vigilant moderation if I thought it would achieve anything :p

Thanks.

Point is, I even understand why the "crypto enthusiasts slash bulls" would react like that. This is "their" place. One of the few locations where they are among themselves. Since I'm an enthusiast myself, I can understand it - if almost everyone in the outside world tells you how dumb it is to put money into crypto, it's nice to finally have a place where you are among likeminded.

But the problem is of course that you then get to cases like TERA, or JorgeStolfi, who are *anything* but trolls (in a meaningful sense), just smart, opinionated people with a dissenting view (TERA on the market direction, Jorge on the long-term success likelihood of Bitcoin in general).

So here's the dilemma:

If you take offense at those positions (and people still do - go to the wall thread... if you quote Jorge, people will ask you to "not quote the troll") to the point where you prefer to mute them out, you're reducing signal/noise, because what you're left with are the real trolls and their incoherent posts.

If, on the other hand, you are more inviting to those dissenting opinions, this place will more resemble the "outside" world, where a large number of people are very skeptical if Bitcoin has a real chance of success.

So, like I said, I get why this dilemma exists. No matter how the most enthusiastic, optimistic posters in here react, it's going to have consequences they probably wouldn't like.

True it is a dilemma and not easily solved because a forum like bitcointalk will always attract in the main bitcoin supportive users.

That said, as your picture shows what is currently across the forum frontpage are numerous troll doommongering bear threads that are devoid of any meaningful analysis whatsoever. I don't think that in anyway represents what the outside world think about bitcoin.

Overall I agree this forum has completely lost any sense of balanced reasoned analysis. I wasn't here in 2011 but I am curious whether a similar effect was observed then.