Quote from: limbaugh on October 04, 2014, 10:53:07 PM

Quote from: MAXcoin_Believer on October 04, 2014, 08:40:13 PM

Quote from: Vlad2Vlad on October 04, 2014, 04:38:08 PM

Quote from: MAXcoin_Believer on October 04, 2014, 01:48:34 PM

Can you quote me one post by anybody at all who says Maxcoin is a Keiser created coin?

But is IS a keiser backed coin, it's had exposure on RT and any Maxcoin news is retweeted by keiser. There are hundreds of cryptos that he doesn't give a toss about. Only a select few are discussed on his show and tweeted about!

While you are at it would you mind explaining why one of the Startjoin creators said he was building a position in Maxcoin if it's not part of a longer term plan?

Are you talking about. Karl Gray?

I'm asking myself the same thing but I can't figure out why they'd need to split their resources between 2 coins. Is it because StartCoin is simply too niche? I meant, it's really used just for StartJoin for raising funds.

So maybe. MaxCoin is their currency coin - to be used for other purposes.

Yeah, Karl. It's my belief that Maxcoin will be their long term plan considering Karl's confession of buying Maxcoin. I see startcoin as the coin they will use and abuse for the future funding of Maxcoin projects (a coin that was not pre mined) and any other projects they see as beneficial to whatever cause they might have.

Is it not strange that the Maxcoin chatter has stopped and Luke has been essentially AWOL for a fortnight after a problem started occurring? If you want to know Max and Karl's long term strategy then look not at what they are doing but look at what they are not doing. It might not be ethical but it is legal to fool investors to part with their investment at a discount so you can hoover them up before you start releasing news that will impact the price. Every negative thing that has happened with Maxcoin to date could be attributed to a plan to scare investors and let the price fall so the devs and friends can buy cheap.

Let's play this out logically, and let's assume I'm the collective consciousness of the Maxcoin team. I have just fixed a massive issue with Maxcoin or I am about to release news that is going to drive up the demand for Maxcoin. Should I release the news now? Should I wait and make people nervous? If I release the news right now what do I get? I expect to be paid for my efforts don't I? So why not take matters into my own hands and gobble up cheap max and make a few quid? Waiting allows me to accumulate Maxcoin that is being dumped by nervous holders as they drive the price down. Now I have removed supply just before I increase the demand!

The real fools are the ones who can't read between the lines and base their investment solely on what could be a huge distraction from the main show. Take for example the entire financial world, everyone buys into the propaganda that everything is fine even though you can see we are screwed if you do a little bit of digging. Everyone eats up the bull crap that politicians spout but if you ask anyone individually "do you trust a politician" and the average answer is "no way"! Although as a collective we gobble it all up!

Karl Gray owns maxcoins, you would be a fool if you thought that Max Keiser also doesn't own maxcoins. If he came right out and said so then the price would go up. But if he publicaly ignores Maxcoin for long enough then he has a chance of getting more for 5k, 4k, 3k sats or less.

Will someone just explain why a huge whale like Karl Gray bought Maxcoin please? Did he make a mistake? Does anyone think that Max Keiser doesn't own Maxcoin? And most importantly, who here believes the Maxcoin devs don't own bucket loads of Maxcoin? If I had my own little economy I would fill all your heads with doubt just before I pump, you lose, I win!

Brilliant M_B. I have to admit when dealing with Maxcoin the shady side of crypto's does appear to be the norm. So it's understandable, considering the Maxcoin devs track record, to expect despicable behavior.

But let's assume for a moment Keiser and Gray aren't involved in an elaborate conspiracy to screw over the community. They might simply have shifted focus from Maxcoin to Startcoin and the growing business it was designed for. If this indeed the case, it appears to be a brilliant move.

Agreed, I take nothing away from Startcoin. It is indeed a brilliant idea. That's not to say it couldn't be designed for a dual purpose. (1) great crypto because of the fantastic business model. (2) great way to boost ventures the startcoin admin believes in.

My whole argument is predicated on the belief that there is a bigger plan afoot, but the evidence (including silence at convenient times) does seem to point towards a good future for Maxcoin holders. I mean, comparing it to other cryptos with nowhere near as much media exposure it's in a league with the big crypto names and should become a top 10 coin.

Despicable behaviour I can live with as long as it makes me money. It's an unregulated market, it's to be expected. Let's get rich now and worry about policing cryptos later. If the behaviour of the devs is despicable and leads to a huge fortune then I'll be along for the ride. I don't see anything that they have done so far to be described as shady though. Are you referring to the launch?