Quote from: Dende on October 06, 2014, 07:54:33 PM

I was just googling for islamic rulings on bitcoin and stumbled upon this thread. As a Muslim I feel the need to be involved in this conversation. Although my knowledge about my own religion is really limited, I hope I can clarify some of the negative perspectives about Islam that I am seeing here.

One that really caught my attention is this post. The book, Quran which I use for guidance in my life is also used by some to slander Islam hurts me.

Quote from: Spendulus on September 29, 2014, 08:56:45 PM

Quote from: PolarBear on September 29, 2014, 08:13:44 PM

Saying people hate Islam is a generalization.

Not everyone hates Islam.

Radical Islam.... That's what people hate.

Things like this are unacceptable:

Quran:
Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

Huh

Plenty more:

http://dttj.blogspot.com/2010/08/intolerance-toward-non-muslims-in-quran.html

Interesting thing I found just googling "why hate Islam"... this list....

Don't take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, Allah will consider you to be one of them. 5:51
The curse of Allah is on disbelievers. 2:89
Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers. 2:98
For disbelievers is a painful doom." 2:104
Allah will make disbelievers' miserable in this world and torture them forever after they die. 2:114
Disbelievers are losers. 2:121
The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162
Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kil them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2
Allah says that you must keep fighting until there is no more persecution and everyone on earth is a Muslim. Then you can stop killing people. 2:193a

Intermarriage is forbidden. 2:221
Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. 3:28
Don't believe anyone who is not a Muslim. 3:73
Don't be friends with non-Muslims. They all hate you and want to ruin you. 3:118
Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89
The disbelievers are an open enemy to you. 4:101
Do not choose disbelievers as friends. 4:144
Never help disbelievers. 28:86

The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers." 2:254
Non-muslims will be punished by Allah for their nonbelief. 3:19
We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire 3:151
Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers. (See 2:65-66) 4:47
If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91
Non-muslims are wrong doers. 5:45
Jews and Christians are evil-livers. 5:59
Those who deny Muhammad's revelations are like dogs. 7:176
Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123
Allah hates disbelievers. 35:26

And then a comment...

https://malaysia.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130429050316AAq2MOs

Islam has to eradicate from its codex all notions of killing as a justified means to an end. So long as this sort of 'code' exists the programming is allowed to be carried out by the mules. Then there are the cultural overtones that exacerbate the ability for rational people to accept 'Muslims' since so many practice in country's where people are treated like dirt, especially women. Finally, all religons have a egoist based condition that is problamatic. No prophet would espouse death and destruction much less treating people like dirt. It is the egoists who create these conditions and then hide their despicable behavior behind the cloak of 'religion' or religiosity to justify their actions.

I lean toward agreeing with the above part "eradicate from its codex all notions of killing as a justified means to an end". If you gave people a "holy book" with this stuff, then some percentage of wackos are simply going to act on it and feel they are justified. Like they are and have been doing.

There are 6,236 verses from the Quran and some people just pick and choose some sentences in the Quran that agree with their preconception without considering what other contents in the Quran are all about. Verses that are quoted above are not even properly translated, which is a disservice to the Quran or any other book for that matter, you can find proper Quran translation in book stores and there are even free apps for android and ios. Moreover, when you ahttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=34.0re quoting verse from the Quran many things you have to consider to fully understand them such as the historical contexts, the verses before and after, meaning of the verse or more information about it may also be available in another verses in the quran or in the prophetic traditions, target audiences during the revelation and so on.
The Quran was sent down to the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) verse by verse in duration of 23 years. In this 23 years many things happen, I wont go into the history but just want to say that that the prophet and his followers went through many hardships and sufferings to tell people about the revelation that was sent to the prophet by god. I really hope more people can give more respect to the Quran and prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) which are the guidance and example for 2 billions Muslims worldwide. When people slander the Quran or the prophet, it really hurt us Muslims to see the book and the person which we respect the most being degraded.
I dont know where you guys get your information about Islam but I would assume some get from media that only potrays muslims as "freedom hating jihadists" whatever that means. There are crazy people among the Muslims, Christians, Jews, Atheists etc., but it is unfair to paint one group or its system of belief with the same brush because of the actions of some people in that group. I would encourage anybody that sees only negative in Islam to consider looking the other side of the coin. Lets resolve any misunderstanding and focus our effort in fighting against the system that has opressed people into spiral of debt, that is why we have Bitcoin eh? Wink

If anybody has questions about Islam I would love to provide with information that I could find.

What is your outlook or view on Israel?