Quote from: pa on October 08, 2014, 01:50:09 AM

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Quote from: rpietila on October 07, 2014, 08:54:20 PM

If your intention is to imply that BCX's opinion counts (as anything except possibly to the contrary), I am flabbergasted.

As if your opinion has been anything better?

You told everyone Bitcoin was going to the moon, told them buy & hold all the way down since at least $700, you started a thread saying $500 was the bottom, etc.. I disagreed with you every time, and I have been correct every single time. So if anything, users should be listening to me, not you.

I don't dislike you as a person. In fact, I have fond memories. Your ethics are exquisite. I am not patronizing. These are facts to the best of my knowledge having known you before when you were a private speculator before you anointed yourself His Majesty of Altcoins.

I am entirely against this new role you have anointed for yourself. If you are in support of bettering the world with crypto, and thus will support new technology quietly without trying to herd the community politically, I will be your ally. If you continue to create this political angst and surety (which the Bible clearly states is wrong), this only motivates me that much more to do anything in my programming ability to overcome what you have done in order to restore freedom of innovation in the altcoin space unfettered by the herding of the n00bs.

One sign that you are sincere about not harming the community, would be to stop proclaiming that you can read the future of technology. You don't even understand the technology.

The prior two paragraphs are not some idle threat. They are based on inside knowledge I have, which you are not aware of. I am trying to warn you to please not get caught again making proclamations that are going to very likely end up being incorrect.

Quote from: rpietila on October 07, 2014, 08:54:20 PM

What the guy said has not come true, so in my books whatever he says from then on, is just air.

That seems to be true. And all your public predictions were too. Even the XMR price is lower than when you told everyone to buy it.

Quote from: rpietila on October 07, 2014, 08:54:20 PM

Speaking of that, BBR's price may have seen the first air escaping from the pump. Expect more to follow.

Unfortunately I can not disagree about the long-term future of the BBR price (I have a very specific reason which I will not reveal). The short-term could see another potentially very significant bounce, depending on what jl777 does. Nevertheless, I don't see the point of you doing this? It is very disruptive to the community spirit. Why can't you let investors make their own decisions and so we don't get into these political herding camps and wars?

Quote from: rpietila on October 07, 2014, 08:54:20 PM

I still symphatisize for BBR. When the price goes to sustainable level, the only thing hindering me from buying it is the community (or the lack thereof).

That reads like feigned patronizing as a veil to ridicule its community and developers.

Quote from: rpietila on October 07, 2014, 08:54:20 PM

If XMR cannot make it despite the dream team,

Watch the best of XMR devs jump ship when they realize the paradigm can be defeated and there is nothing they can do about it.

Yes there are some very smart people who develop for XMR, but they are not the only smart people in the world. Also the smartest of them want to see success in crypto-currency more than they want to be locked into some groupthink, otherwise they aren't smart.

As much as XMR has going for it technically, you are causing a lot of political problems which are killing the spirit. I was thinking before that you could learn to be a lovable angel investor touching the community with morsels of investment to spur on the paradigm shifts we need. But it seems you think the way to organize success is top-down structures, voting, politics, herding, talking to yourself in an echo chamber, etc..

I mean as much as I appreciate your 2 BTC gift (although you never paid the 2.50 BTC bounty on time which is a sin in the Bible), I can't bring myself to agree with your paradigm of organization. Sorry I wish I could. If that means you will regret helping me, that is very unfortunate because I am the one who can change the world with crypto. You will hopefully soon see. Why me? Well not because I am smarter than smooth et al, but I am smart enough and I am very creative with ideas. But mostly because my hands are not tied by groupthink.

Quote from: rpietila on October 07, 2014, 08:54:20 PM

I give very small chances for BBR making it either. And if XMR does make it, BBR will wither away or become a community coin for privacy-conscious people that for a reason or another hate XMR (a little bit like LTC vs. BTC).

BBR's big bet for grandeur is the SuperNet. Unless they have something else up their sleeve, their future depends on the SuperNet outcome.

But what good does it do for you to predict what they have up their sleeve? Do you think you can predict what I have up my sleeve?

All this accomplishes is animosity.

P.S. the likely reason the BBR price crashed was Zoid's mistake of stating he wasn't receiving enough development income. How many times am I going to say you are crazy if you develop a coin and don't take a small premine to fund yourself and pay bounties. If you have something unique and you demonstrate you are the better developer on your code than any arseholes who try to fork your project, then your premine is not a negative, it is a positive.

I truly hope you succeed in your quest to create the ultimate cryptocurrency. If such a thing can be done, I am all for it. But your public attacks on Risto, whom you call your friend, are really ungenerous. He's not "herding" anyone and not "anointing" himself to anything, except perhaps with tongue-in-cheek. He's a fan of Monero and wishes to create a community of Monero fans. The rest is in your imagination.

Or it may simply be that Rptiella expresses his enthusiasm differently than others, I can sort of see his perspective in this. Of course only he(and those he chooses to reveal to) can know his true thoughts.

Concerning development income:

I believe the XMR team should simply start something akin to the "dreaded Bitcoin Foundation". But, instead of all the slyness that the Bitcoin Foundation uses, they can simply calculate how much $ they'll need, along with other expenses(Rent, Food, w/e), and present it to the Monero community to give feedback on. Once the majority of the community agrees on how much should be raised for necessities, then a funding program can begin(With incentive such as "titles" and such). So it wouldn't be so much as a glorified foundation, instead as funding for necessities.