Quote from: Und3rd0g on October 09, 2014, 03:59:46 AM

Quote from: AMT_miners on October 09, 2014, 03:54:21 AM

Quote from: opieum2 on October 09, 2014, 03:30:07 AM

Facts are I can show TIME after TIME you lied about said shipment. I agreed to those at THOSE times. BUT you failed to deliver every single time. When I kicked up the most is when you re-routed SOMEONE ELSES ORDER to my house which was a lucky coincidence not planning on your part. You did not even have my actual tracking number in the system until you converted that order which still (and I have the proof still) that the order was meant for someone else who refused the order. I have ALL the proof and documentation to show that YOU failed to deliver until I raised a massive complaint. You had to address it because you know what that means. So you CAN sue me. But you will find that the facts are all in my favor. The court cares about what can be shown not what you say. I have everything to show you lied time after time after time. So yea I might spend some time and money fighting you, but well, the facts are there no matter what you say. I have ALL the paperwork to show it.

I don't care if you are a 26 year old or a 40 year old. Your sympathy act is just another false act here, Fact is you lied and did not deliver consistently. You even admitted we are investors in your company AND have threatened people. With physical harm. Me you decided and still are posting my info publicly without my consent. You are the CEO of AMT miners, your information is a matter of public record. I am/was a client, as such you have information that is privileged and is deemed confidential BY law. There are strict laws in many nations about consumer info. But you are incorporated in the USA, So those statutes apply to you.

First off how do you KNOW what my motives are? Firstly, I never stated I was out to bankrupt you so how do you KNOW this? Back up that claim with some proof. Real proof. I stated clearly again and again that my goal was to get refunds for all of us who you wronged. YOU freely stated you would, BUT have provided no timeline, or action plan. Just "intentions". Intentions mean nothing. I already told you. Make things right with us first, then we back off. I will be the first to make it right. I can admit IF I have been wrong. But so far you have done very little if anything to prove you are trying to even do the right thing. It seems more like you are looking to get away with it, again your own words damn you in that, I can repost those skype chats for reference. And funny that after we talked about posting the FULL content of those chats, you decided to post rebuttals. Worried? You should be.

Fact is I did not close the official threads twice because people were complaining. I did not lie to anyone about shipping hardware, I did not lie to anyone about refunds. I did not state next week and things are shipping when they were not, I did however support your customers, once you dumped that responsibility on me in a public way.....are you denying you did dropped the support of YOUR clients on me and not compensating me, or was it just an act of malicious intent?

I will write long factually detailed posts when you post just to make sure all ground is covered, since you claim I am slandering you.

Quote from: AMT_miners on October 09, 2014, 03:12:14 AM

Quote from: opieum2 on October 09, 2014, 02:49:44 AM

Quote from: AMT_miners on October 09, 2014, 02:12:37 AM

Quote from: opieum2 on October 09, 2014, 12:55:55 AM

Quote from: mrpark on October 09, 2014, 12:48:05 AM

The only thing AMT produces is lies. So if they post here or not it really doesn't matter. They are corrupt liars, and will reap what they sow when it comes time to meet their maker. They only care about themselves, the only time they will help someone if they can take someone's money in exchange for low grade used inferior products worth far less than the customers paid or nothing at all. Shameful company. Disgusting...

Please note it is not a them. Its a him. Joshua Zipkin is the sole person who speaks for his company if you want to call it that. He outsources work to others altho I do think his family handles operations in the US, seeing a there are people associated with him who handle shipping. But in all Joshua Zipkin is the one who does the talking. It's easy to see it's him even with the sock puppets.

AMT has a dedicated staff of 10 people. Your an idiot.

Oh right some of them are your family. Jeannette W. is one of them lives at your PA address correct? As perhaps even your other relative Jessica Z I imagine? You put my family in the crosshairs by claiming I was a classified high level worker for the government. I am not letting that shit go any time soon. I have no interest in anything happening to anyone. But you dragged my family into this....and put us into danger with your statements. I have not doxxed your address like you did mine. I suppose I could, but as you said honor and honesty and all that. Let someone else handle that task if they wish.

As for idiot......well you clearly owned the fact that you have a DEDICATED which is FULL TIME staff of 10 people. That means you have money to make this work. Money that is not being used to make things right with the customers ALL of them regardless of their naughty or nice status. Since you play favorites with your customers that too is going to hurt you in court. But you know since you don't like to comment on here, YOUR OWN WORDS, it seems unimportant what I say. Guess I am an idiot for even responding to you. Or I am imagining I am replying to you since you are not supposed to be replying here Joshua Zipkin aka AMT_Miners, since you don't have the balls to actually admit it's you actually penning these posts. And no I won't stop until justice is done on you. Eye for an eye is that not what you believe? You made it clear you are a racist. But the eye for an eye idea in Judaism does make alot of sense. I am not one for turn the other cheek cause that just means getting your ass kicked. Since you stole money from us, is it not karma (buddist? idea) that you do not make money as well? I imagine your karma will change once you make things right with those you have wronged. EVERYONE not just a select few you deem your nice list.

Yea several eastern Europeans, a few part timers in philly and a few chinese. Roughly 6k a month. We're not getting into this with you because its exactly what you want, to waist time. You'll be sued and you'll pay a lot for it and that's that. Really you deserve it.

Listen Tony, all of this crap that you're doing, doesn't mean a damn thing. Your fighting with a 26 year old who tried to build a business on a dime and eventually actually shipped you your product, after you agreed to receive it several times even though it was late. We know the refund is not your motive, your motive is to bankrupt us. It's too obvious. Just like in the beginning, no one helps someone else for 3-4 hours a day on a forum battling trolls like Phin for nothing.

We've already compiled your slander into the filing. And shipping started just a few weeks after josh was in china. We shipped by order number, your order 1400 something and still jumped several others. If your complaining about getting your miner before someone else who deserved it more because they ordered in November instead of February. Either way you're bringing up crap so that we comment on it so you can elaborate on it and bla bla. And yes, we handed off the possible 6 clients that would come on this forum off to you or anyone else really for support, because we don't want to support people on a public forum which characters like yourself. Several support requests have came in via and we took care of them one by one.

We still have the intent to refund clients, and the reason we didn't provide an action plan was because we didn't know. We knew we built a new model of a miner that is more applicable to data centers and possibly more interesting. We didn't know Tony Serratta would become our next troll and write crap about us everyday which would effect sales. We did know that our miners were working and we felt comfortable enough to ship them to clients and start sales again. Really.. An action plan was never given because we sell a machine who's value is based on a deregulated currency's price, consumer sentiment, and our reputation. But the intention was there yes, as you already knew.

There's no point in arguing with you, and you're motives were obvious since June. But really there is no point because no one reads our thread, because our clients don't come from here and we have so few of them anyway. Because your efforts to stop our tiny blip of a company succeeded, but mostly because we don't really care. Just passing the time until Papa Johns arrives honestly.

Fucking grow up. This reads like a post from a 8-year old. Unbelievable.

I really want you to be a successful bitcoin hardware seller, but when you post shit like this, I get the feeling that you are simply a fucking scam company. GROW UP!

Well if you read the posts these guys write you would have already come to that conclusion by the 2nd or 3rd page like everyone else. There's a reason we don't write here anymore.

Maybe after November 10th, if we hold out until then things could turn up.