Quote from: LRENZ on October 10, 2014, 08:22:33 PM

Almost everything that was said against Stealthsend can be said for SDCs proposed zk-snarks implementation, its equally just empty promises on a roadmap at the moment, you cant argue against this until its released so don't even bother trying.

I cant wait for this shit to hit the fan too haha

In the meantime clearly no one is buying SDC anyway.

The difference is Shadow did not release a spec and then give a deadline for that spec. It gave an eta on the release without a spec because the spec changes as a result of testing. Until the spec is finalized it won't be released. That is a proper development cycle and the sign of a team with years of development experience. Shadow's dev won't announce anything until after it has entered the testing cycle.

Hondo released a spec and made claims without testing or getting peer review. This by definition would be classified as vapor. Seeing how logical techncial questions and responses get classified as trolling or FUD on bitcointalk, I would have to assume the definition of vapor here is quite different from the normally accepted one. My view is in-line with the Bitcoin core devs.

Greg Maxwell:
bjjb: At the same time I would argue that Hondo has demonstrated good work ethic and some integrity. I do not think that he is the type of person to profit like that. It seems very counter to my experiences with him.
[01:38am] bjjb: If this is truly a work of his passion, maybe he will find a way to make it work. I do appreciate the skeptic professional opinions tonight - they are rare in the trade scene.
[01:40am] nessence joined the chat room.
[01:40am] gmaxwell: You can't really honest effort yourself through something that is just not applicable, and probably not through not knowing what you're doing. ... and you speak of integrity, but launching some speculative asset when you've not done the work? I don't think that is something that speaks of integrity.

Shadow is one of the only projects outside of Bitcoin and Bytecoin that has an in-house cryptogapher on the team. The cryptocurrency space is fundamentally built around cryptography. If a project doesn't have access to a cryptographer or one on the team then ultimately the result will be bad crypto. This is the same as running a restaurant without a Chef, sure a microwave would work with prepackaged food, but ultimately the food have nowhere near the level of quality. Releasing any speculative asset as a promise without proper testing is the sign of an inexperienced developer.