Quote from: CinniCoin on October 12, 2014, 03:55:41 AM

Quote from: fuznutts on October 11, 2014, 08:31:13 PM

Quote from: Papcio77 on October 11, 2014, 04:49:54 PM

Quote from: Papcio77 on October 11, 2014, 04:47:57 PM

I ask to postpone snapshotna another term. Because it is a problem with accounts on Mintpal V2

They just write for 10 days. The problem is not only CINNI on Mintpal, but also access to the accounts. And that does not fix it within 3 days. Please cinnidev transfer snapshot.

This may not be a bad idea CinniDev---to push back the snapshot until a majority at least are prepared for it. Also, to the community...please contact BTER, BTC38 and Poloniex as they are the most likely to honor the snapshot with shares in future DACs (and BTER/BTC38 will be far more likely to list Cinni in their exchange).

Another great idea would be to get the bitshares community (and devs) on board and willing to help you bring value to all stakeholders through advice and expertise of those who actually engineered DPOS. By honoring those who created it (wouldn't you honor Satoshi if you could?), you accomplish this.

To those who dislike the idea of honoring PTS/AGS holders, it might not be a bad idea to diversify into bitshares PTS to get a cut (if/when CinniDev decides to do this). In so doing, you ally yourselves with us and we ally ourselves with you...and this is a huge benefit.

PTS and AGS were used to fund the development of the technology that is going to increase the value of Cinni over time...and DPOS based DACs will likely eventually be born on this chain (if everyone plays their cards right). The benefits of honoring a simple 20% of the snapshot to PTS/AGS holders who fund the constant improvements, enterprise level scalability, tx speeds are numerous.

It also increases the chance that Cinnicoin holders will be "Sharedropped" a % of shares in DACs that come out for DPOS-Based chains, for instance (wouldnt it be nice to have a chance to actually get shares in DACs made by bitshares' Devs for official bitshares chains (like bitshares Play (gaming DAC) or others?...just for holding Cinni.). If there is no PTS/AGS contribution, however, it is pretty much ensured Devs building DACs that honor PTS/AGS holders will never think to honor Cinni Holders.

This is a GREAT place to extend one's gratitude in the knowledge that it will likely pay everyone back substantially more than they gave in the future.

P.S. I have purchased Cinni, so I will get a cut regardless the decision...but I hope

You make very good points
Honoring the Bitshares social consesus of 10% to Bitshares PTS and 10% to Bitshares AGS sounds like a good idea.
Does anyone dislike this idea?

Also I suppose I can push back the snapshot date until people are prepared for it.

BTER is unlikely to add CINNI, they were approached earlier and didn't like it, its unlikely they will change that now because of timeshares especially since they have no Cinni to benefit from the timesahres snapshot.
BTC38 will take one look at the history here and issues other exchanges have had and completely avoid it. No exchange is going to add or continue to support Cinni long term in its current state. Half the exchanges have delisted Cinni, the dev does not even update the first post.

The priority should be to work on fixing the wallet, i spoke to other devs and the current problem is apparently a relatively fix but the longer its ignored the more of a problem its will become until the point where exchanges will be forced to drop Cinni simple because its cause more problems (forking, resyncing, incorrect balances, stuck transactions etc) then is worth an exchange spending time on, especially when as far as they can see the dev has abandoned Cinni, no updates, no communications and no fix for the issues that have been mentioned many times. Snapshot can happen anytime buts it worthless if people were not able to withdraw or move their coins safely before it happened because of these current bugs with Cinni that should have been fixed long ago.