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It's so confusing all the different opinions on climate change. For me it seems that it's a natural process for the climate our planet. It's a very complicated system, with a huge amount of factors to influenciate. In reality man cannot understand all these factors. And when man cannot understand things they tend to create myths.

If man can find an excuse to make money he will try to sell you the air that we breathe

Or if it can help them control the people they will sell you the fact that a disgusting expensive energy such as solar panels or wind turbines is better than natural green energy such as oil or the most renewable and less dedly energy (only one major very deadly incident in 50years) : radioactivity

They are not really disgusting, they just need to be carefully located. Say on islands where there is no natural energy and all electric comes from ships bringing fuel oil or coal to the island. Or remote areas, where it isn't practical or cheap to run a power line.

It's disgusting to lie about solar and wind and to claim they will replace coal and gas.

We have sufficient experience with solar and wind today to know these claims are false.

Look at the fail of Germany on so called "green" energies; they lost billions for nothing and they are importing nuclear energy from Poland and use coal energy

Wind turbines and solar panels use rare earth metals, wind turbines only last for 20years and need a lot of maintenance so they need a lot of resources to build and to maintain

Yes, I agree completely. But STILL, you will agree with me that there are likely some places on this planet where solar and or windmill power do make perfect sense from an engineering and fiscal perspective.

The error is in indiscriminate promotion of these systems by governments in bed with greenies.

Oh yes I agree and the market and private capital would develop the technology but pouring billions and sometimes tens of billions in public programs without caring much about the cost or if it's profitable is a bad idea

It makes me think of hundreds of billions rail road constructed that everyone like when you could pay an airline ticket a month to every citizen for 100years with the same money!

I've always suspected under the table pumping up of the radical left green agenda, including the solar and wind games, by forces profiting from continued dependance on oil. Used the be Evil from the view of the left was Exxon, curious that it wasn't Saudi and other middle east oil companies. But it never was - it was the US company, Exxon.

Lately, with Germany and the Soviet natural gas pipeline, it's became clear this is more than wild conspiracy theory.