Quote from: allcoinminer on October 20, 2014, 04:28:28 PM

Quote from: pekatete on October 20, 2014, 04:21:52 PM

Quote from: allcoinminer on October 20, 2014, 03:52:54 PM

Mining hardware price will be jacked up if the btc price rises high if they are not shipped.
Otherwise, if we buy in anticipation that the price will increase later, then it's better to buy BTC directly and hold than investing in mining hardware.
Also, in any case, investing in mining hardware for ROI is a very dangerous investment.
A simple hardware failure will ruin all your investment.

You make a good point there, aka invest in buying BTC rather than HW. But that is all I agree with you on (and it still is speculation).
1. I do not think anyone invests in HW not to ROI, and all mining HW buys are inherently dangerous, but then again, bitmain offer a reputable RMA service.
2 .Just like a simple HW failure can theoretically ruin your investment, so can a simple disk failure (or should I say HW failure too) lead to the loss of your entire BTC stash! Even a clever hack (for the online wallet-holders) can do as much damage.

So my point still stands, we need to make these statements with proper context.
I also maintain that it could turn out to be a master-stroke to buy the batch 11 S3+'s at their pricing, though on the face of it they look too dear. Of course I have no insight into the future to be totally certain, but were I betting man, I'd err on the side of getting bitmain hardware on equivalent pricing per GH.

Not like to get into arguments in this matter.
It's not theoretical but practically kills your ROI.
Wishing you good luck for your wishes.
Everyone has different perspectives.

I did not think there was any arguing (just logical points being made), but like you say, everyone can have a differing opinion and it is very evident on this topic.
And thanks for the good wishes.