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Cryptsi team is still here, and our loyal gang of 8 bloggers, and 4 trolls.

Just curious, do you consider me a blogger or a troll? Cheesy

Seriously, this is a problem. Once you've fallen off the radar it's hard to get the attention of potential users again. At the very least there should be an effort to identify a (big) list of cryptocoin journalists and a plan to contact them via email with the Incredible Crypti Return From The Dead story. Hopefully by Halloween.

Taking a part the red and yellow text I usually like what you write, it's different, although often too much tech for me to fully grasp it

Personally I am probably inbetween, having trying to quit smoking cigarettes the last few days I'm more edgy than usual! So apologize for that

I have offered my opinion on going customchains/supernet > PoT as customchains don't have much work on it left, I have spoken good about supernet several times and I still hold that view that it will give much more exposure than contacting a few journalists.

If customchains were to be done in 2-3 weeks it would offer significant features

XCR gains > exposure, more users, more transactions, and the XCR user has chance to use more features
what XCR "gives" > customchains feature. As for features that XCR can use by joining, there are a few mostly its good for exposure to network/activity etc,
But I think most importantly what XCR can use by joining is to get a large userbase to use their technology. (CCs)

So in short the only thing XCR really "gives" supernet is the custom chains technology which needs a userbase and developers anyway...
First exposure it would get? The 20-30 developers within supernet or around it with their respective coins..

I've seen it being discussed, but I just don't see where the downside it, there used to be a majority as to joining in the foundation, but seems like this is no longer the case.

"We don't have anything to give" This can be changed by changing priorities as I understand there's someone else working PoT right now.

As for making my case, the only "downside" that I can possibly see in this from what I gather from foundation, is the portraying that jl777 is some big bad wolf, some internet gangster with millions of dollars of blackmoney stuffed under in his bed, running from the feds hiding in Argentina because he's a mad bad criminal (rly?) when in reality, he's probably just some pale faced teenagergeek who's been coding 16 hours a day since early december for NXT.

I think the even most bizarre part is all these stories people throw around as truths are coming from a guy (BM) who's blackmailed people on this very forum, doxxed single mums trying to get them fired from their employees, stolen 100 BTC are are still here to professionally troll.
Read his first post about him, you'll find every word he says plausible, read 10-15 more and you'll realize he's batshit insane.

Not to go OT here but with all that being said, nothing will change as to joining supernet, it's not possible for jl to be able to do any damage to XCR anyway, even if he'd want. As for buying the 10%, I don't see how that's negative, if some whale would walk into here tomorrow and buy 10% nobody would care, if anything, snet 10% would get them motivated to push custom chains further, and add more value than any other private investor would for that matter

It just all seems to come down to making business decisions for this coins future over having disagreements over someones handle online.
Which to me, frankly, is kinda sad, I see no other reason to shut this decision out, since I've done research on jl and formed my opinion, it can't be a negative thing about his work, since like I have said he's running a lot of things simultaneously, and all of them hold value, working 16 hours a day for nearly a year now.

Why not invite talented developers, other coindevelopers to use customchains, when customchains is only worthwhile if someone is using it?
It just makes no sense to me.. I've been trying these last 2 days to figure it out, different angles and scenarios, but I can't for the life of me figure out why on earth this doesnt make sense to anyone else as the right path to go?

XCR doesn't become supernet, they can still do whatever they want you know? All there is is some features across the platform a stronger network.. etc.
I am still scratching my head on this one.. just can't for the life of me figure out.
If it's turning down a good opportunity over personal bias... well it's too damn bad, because I fail to see who he is would matter at all for XCR.

And going snet/customchains > then PoT would be 110% best option.
There's just so much XCR stands go gain, and also supernet stands to gain. It's just such unrealistic how perfect the match is.

Also, if you think I am biased... I don't hold a single UNITY or any supernet asset, if someone gives me a way to prove it I will.
I just want what's best for XCR... really

Just doesn't make sense at all to me.. I just can't for the life of me figure out the reason as to why.
And if the underlying thought to all is that "NXT is a total scam!" the Coinbox is a brilliant idea, designed to you know... mostly work alongside NXT.. so theres that..

Makes no sense to oppose this, the more and more I think about it, the more it just messes with my mind.
Never in the history of alts have I seen such a partnership that makes so ridiculously much sense to me.

It's just like.. a business deal where the only thing needed from XCRs end to get all the benefits of the deal is like XCR is a newly started shoe store with no customers, and SuperNET is all the other shoe stores in town, and Supernet let you put all XCRs shoes in their stores and when customers tries it on and wants to buy it, they get the "No we dont sell it, you have to go to XCRs store to buy it. Sorry but it's right on 57th broadstreet.."

Some good points. In theory XCR has some great ideas and potential advanced technology at least with custom blockchains, but the problem is knows about it or cares.

Are you the only one pushing the superNET idea? Doesn't seem like anyone else even cares to discuss it. I remember the devs were pretty against it about a month, but haven't done much since then to validate that stance.

We'll see what happens once the custom blockchain technology is released (if ever) and hopefully take it from there.

I might be talking a lot about it, mostly because nobody can tell me why it would be bad. I am just thinking of ways it can be bad but come up with none.
Also I talk a lot about it because I believe it's the right way to go here.
When they were against it, it was because they didn't know how it would go (I respect that XCR was new back then) now they've seen it was a success and they seem to vote against it within the foundation and I can't figure out why. Still treading with caution? I'd say the time for that is way done for.
Bitcoin can be $10 tomorrow, Boris may get hit by a car when he walks to buy his daily bread, someone can hack BTER... you get my point.
It's like we don't want to take any "risks" until we already got a ten feet pole shoved up our asses so far up we don't have to worry about any risks anymore....
because there will be none to take. Jokingly and the dramatization aside you get my point.
I mean it's like, if we bet all horses on PoT and it *wouldnt* I think it will but lets say it wouldnt work out, the team has dug a grave too deep already.
To me, I can accept the technology part you know? It's new code! Ofcourse I can, else I'd buy a 100% safe Bitcoin clone #1932.
But if the hypothetical scenario would go as I have mentioned it wouldn't be because of just the tech it would be because of a string of bad decisions really.

And I think me and Bitseed like the idea very much, yeah.
Custom blockchain technology can be ready under the month, I know Boris has it nearly done for earlier versions but they want to wait after PoT to release it atm.