Quote from: superresistant on October 24, 2014, 03:35:53 PM

Quote from: mmitech on October 24, 2014, 03:31:54 PM

Quote from: justusranvier on October 24, 2014, 03:04:00 PM

Quote from: mmitech on October 24, 2014, 02:25:21 PM

this is why states and borders exist, and some kind of enforced regulation has to exist so people can live with each other.

Here's the problem - you're confusing yourself for humanity. That's called projection.
Maybe you need enforced regulations in order to get along with other people. If so, that's a personal problem you should discuss with a competent psychotherapist.

Yea, I have/had major issues getting along with people who have different visions and different life style that I didn't/don't agree with. thanks to the regulations that exists in my home country (Algeria) and here in EU I could still live with them, in other words I lived the CHAOS first hand between 1991-2000, so try to live in a system where having an Islamic orthodox fucking you up and slaughtering everyone against his vision then tell me how to get people to agree on something in a free of regulations state/world where you have many demographics, because you don't know shit about that, I lived it first hand.
Some of you have no fucking idea what freedom means, freedom is necessary but total freedom is CHAOS, regulations are meant for a reason... take Syria for example, watch how a lack of a government worked for these people.... take Iraq for another example, a total CHAOS, a government that cant do shit about losing territory to a terrorist organization that calls it self a state...
I would love to watch how your technological distributed libertarian state will work...

Minimal state would do for example.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism

their only legitimate function is the protection of individuals from aggression, theft, breach of contract, and fraud, and that the only legitimate governmental institutions are the military, police, and courts. In the broadest sense, it also includes fire departments, prisons, the executive, and legislatures as legitimate government functions. Such states are generally called night-watchman states.

USA used to be a minimal state.

you start with that and you end up with what we have today, because then you keep adding, for example education, health care.... the systems that we have today didnt just appear in one night, they are the outcome of development of centuries.

Yes, I also agree about changing some corrupt governments and improving things, but I don't think a free libertarian state is any kind of a help, in fact I think it will just make things worst.