Quote from: EyesWideOpen on November 02, 2014, 08:51:15 PM

Quote from: David Latapie on November 02, 2014, 08:32:13 PM

Quote from: Hypnotique on November 02, 2014, 08:04:51 PM

Quote from: David Latapie on November 02, 2014, 07:59:23 PM

Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

Presstab version,that I completely approve.
FUD FAQ, as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!

Confirm the PM's or GTFO

The burden of proof is on you, not on us. YOU are the plaintiff, YOU contact the "legal" powers (here, Theymos). "The necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges." (semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit)

Quote from: Wikipedia - Legal Burden of Proof

He who does not carry the burden of proof carries the benefit of assumption, meaning he needs no evidence to support his claim. Fulfilling the burden of proof effectively captures the benefit of assumption, passing the burden of proof off to another party.

Plus, as presstab mentionned, should the PM offer be accepted (and at least on the ground of above-mentionned principles, we will not), a new thread and sock puppet would be created and it would all start over."

In the future, presstab, I will also repost your part. When I am not around, you can repost mine too

Also, new argument: Hypnotique had 0 posts when he started this thread. ZERO post means zero credibility per se, only his arguments could have some and they all have been debunked.

David, no one asked Presstab to share the PMs between the two of you. He offered it voluntarily to "trolls" and "fudsters" in an attempt to defend you (I think you probably told him to do that). However the purported PMs between the two of you which he posted looked seriously fake. These are the alleged PMs.

Quote from: presstab on October 22, 2014, 06:15:18 PM

And via PM from David:

Quote from: David Latapie on July 06, 2014, 02:20:16 PM

Quote from: presstab on July 06, 2014, 02:17:15 PM

Quote from: David Latapie on July 06, 2014, 01:43:52 PM

Hi presstab,

We need to announce how long will be the grace period (time between publishing wallet and hardfork).

No grace.

What! I strongly suggest against that. Time zone, people having a life. Give at least one day.

When I ask him and you to verify the PMs with respected Hero forums members or escrows, he immediately started sending me PMs. When that didn't work, you and him asked everyone to stop responding to the thread. When that didn't work, he suddenly claimed he won't respond to 'trolls" and "fudsters", despite voluntarily posting the PMs in the first place. Now you suddenly claim even if Presstab did verify the PMs, new threads will be created asking to verify those PMs again. If that actually happens, you or anyone from the Hyperstake community could just easily quote the confirmation.

I have specifically said that I will stop posting in this thread if you two can confirm the existence of the PMs. Hypnotique went a step further and even offered to hand over his account to you two. You two can end this thread right now by proving the existence of the PMs.

I think it's very obvious to everyone that both of you are liars. The only question that remains is, how many other lies have the two of you concocted?

When Hypsters are left bagholding HYP in a few months time, people will come back to this post.
David and Presstab, your lies here will haunt you on this board forever.