Quote from: rpietila on November 06, 2014, 08:56:48 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 06, 2014, 08:04:39 AM

to suggest that there need NOT be any community pooling of money or that these services will be accomplished voluntarily seems sheer lunacy to me.

Yes, this is what people have always done. Tax = extortion, community pooling = sharing and caring Grin

I am NOT providing any solution exactly or even making the claim that above you seem to be attributing to me. All I am suggesting is that there are a lot of worthy services performed by community and government at various levels, and those services need money (and/or community contributions of individuals) in order to accomplish them. In this regard, you were the one who seemed to be making the assertion that government serves NO role and taxes serve NO purpose. Accordingly, if you want to make such assertions, then maybe you need to describe your vision with some better details, rather than merely arguing for the total abolition of such without any meaningful substitutes or transitions to take their place... unless you are ascribing the mass suffering of a multitude of people?

Quote from: rpietila on November 06, 2014, 08:56:48 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 06, 2014, 08:04:39 AM

to suggest that there need NOT be any community pooling of money or that these services will be accomplished voluntarily seems sheer lunacy to me.

I have quite resently realized that despite my full time efforts of several years, there is still more to learn about how the world works. So I have no time to argue. If you want to get it, you slowly do. Very slowly. (unless you are smarter than me). I will just share some inspirationals here; my ability to concentrate does not allow writing conscise works atm, also they would find very little audience.

Certainly, I am NOT wanting to argue either - but I am just pointing out the absurdity of any statement that we need to abolish all taxes. Those kinds of statements are frequently used by the very people who want to weaken and minimize government in order to exploit regular people in a variety of ways.

Quote from: rpietila on November 06, 2014, 08:56:48 AM

Watchman Nee is perhaps the most important Christian in the 20th century. How many copies his collected works has sold?

I don't know, but when I bought mine, it was still in first edition, 5,000 printed.

I have little knowledge of the teachings of Watchman Nee and/or whether those teachings apply to your comments regarding getting rid of taxes and by extension the services of government.