Quote from: BeardedCouncil on November 06, 2014, 08:43:06 PM

Quote from: bholzer with chunks of text from BeardedCouncil on November 06, 2014, 06:24:42 PM

As I've been extremely busy lately, I have been avoiding the recent drama/nonsense in here. The more it spiraled, the less sufficient my intended responses would become. It's easy to see why it remains so difficult for the rest of the world to take crypto-currency seriously. I haven't read through the majority but I have received a number of reports. As laughable (and downright senseless) as this may have become, I have chosen to get my attorney and the authorities involved in some capacity.

Hey bholzer, good to see you're still with us, even if it is in a 'sick of this crap' capacity.

Can you understand why those not 'in the know' might be frustrated? It's certainly no cause to be accusatory but the frustration has lead to predictable investigation, and when something is reasonably suggested (regardless of it's true legitimacy) the wisest option might have been to communicate (from anyone in the know).

Why my involvement with OctoCoin and my recent (not even secretive) collaboration to help save the project (and my large investment in it) is grounds for cyber stalking, harassment, and childish character assassination is beyond me... but that is the logic we are unfortunately dealing with. If there is one thing crypto people have proven time and time again, it's that they're great at tearing things down.

What is/was your 'not even secretive' collaboration? I (and I don't think many others) were even aware of a problem other than the double spend issue at Bittrex. If the coin has been suffering wider issues (other than the lack of progress) they are still relatively secretive. The Devs posts allude to work needing to be done and it being difficult but and no point have they suggested they may need help. If you were aware of their need for help that puts you in a privileged position while everyone else just twiddles their thumbs.

To be fair to 'crypto people' in the case of OctoCoin there is very little to tear down as of yet. The double spend was not as a result of the community but coding. The frustration people have faced obviously manifests differently, some get angry/ranty/accusatory others despair/give up and others seek answers. With any grouping of people on the internet there will be people who take an immature approach (ever seen youtube, twitter or facebook?)

So roll up your "Jump to Conclusions" mats because statements will be made soon. Bad timing for everything but I suppose it's time to reevaluate things. For those in the know, I still intend to follow through on my part of everything while doing whatever possible to separate myself, my family, and my ventures (both crypto-related and otherwise) from this forum and most (certainly not all) of the people in this thread. This is nuts, guys. What a bummer this has degraded into.

Nothing is really in the public domain other than 1) the devs have not communicated since their last update circa 6 weeks ago and 2) the coin has been disabled on Bittrex and the devs hadn't contacted Richie. There is no information for anyone to work with. Other than you and the Devs who else is "in the know"? And what was the requirement to be so? Because everyone here regardless of scale was an investor and kinda deserved to know what was going on, not just a handful of investors. if the coin was struggling letting us know would have given the opportunity to help out. I'm not suggesting it was your call to make, just that whoever made the call could have made it better :-(

Text in bold is my own. It was only 'bolded' to seperate it from bholzers, not for any 'impact'

At least if they(dev)/him (Bholzer) could get it on an exchange again! Anyway my mind is made up, if I get the opportunity I will sell my 500k!