Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on November 07, 2014, 04:18:17 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on November 07, 2014, 04:02:53 PM

If there are ways to reform and to get the input of the people back into the government and to get the money out, then that would be great.

It would be like reforming flies to not seek sh*t. Because everyone wants free sh*t paid by someone else -and can't never get enough. So the choice is between individual freedom and serfdom. Everything else is a scam.

your being too extreme and over generalizing... show me a complex society without some community entities (otherwise known as government).

If the planet only had less than .5 billion people, then maybe we could each be sufficiently independent to NOT have community entities.. but I do NOT see such individual freedom with more than 7 billion peeps... therefore, some kinds of government and community establishments seem to be necessary.. In other words, it does NOT seem possible to throw out all of the bathwater b/c there happens to be a baby in there... Cheesy