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Drivel, fuckin drivel.. I've already provided the proof COUNTLESS times, you, have quoted your book, which, by admission of many of it's reader's, is dangerous. It's not the book in itself that is dangerous, it's the games played by it's followers (you), who are killing the planet in HIS name, be that what you want. You are as guilty of bombing what-ever country as you are for shooting kids in school, for it's the only excuse you mind fucks can come out with in order to excuse yourself from the blame you place, not on everyone else, but on YOUR CHOICE OF god, in his name.. you know nowt but a sick twisted book. Keep it..

Now, relax, Decky. The whole idea of the "Book" was to rescue those who are sick in the head. They are being rescued, even though they may not become such perfect people that they abide by your high quality standards of living.

You, on the other hand, who do such absolutely GOOD things in life, are still not quite the image of perfection necessary to survive. So, you are being rejected because you trust in your own goodness, which isn't quite good enough. The Book believers are simply trusting in the perfection of Jesus, the thing that saves them, even though they have not been able to cast off as much of their bad qualities as you have yours.

As far as proof for the existence of God, consider this. The video, "Molecular Machinery of Life" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ4N0iSeR8U - is only one of many videos that visually depict the operations that go on inside of cells. The whole operation of life is so "machinery" oriented, and it is so extremely complex, that the only way it could have come into existence is if it had been designed and built.

Google or Youtube search "video of cellular machinery," or any other words along these lines.

If nature had put life together by accident, it would have taken untold numbers of times the projected age of the universe to accomplish it.

For the 100th time, a complex universe does not prove a god. Your god is fucked if he doesn't care about what you actually do and only if you believe in his son.

Nothing conclusively proves or disproves God. But my above info offers a universe full of evidence more in favor of God than against Him - and in favor of Him over anything else.

But why do you hate God so much? He is trying to save you from your own self-destruction. Now if it were salvation so that He could torture you, I would fight Him, too. But it isn't. It is salvation to a far better life than you or I could ever imagine for ourselves. Your call, though. I, certainly, wouldn't attempt to take your freedom from you. God doesn't even do that.

I give up... You're obviously way too brainwashed for any logic to change your mind. If your god is all powerful he could just say 'we cool' and not torture anybody, but instead he makes it a high stakes game where you only win if you believe in something with no evidence, and if you do you can be a horrible person and still make it to heaven.

There is no evidence for a god, repeating it a lot doesn't make it true.

It doesn't matter that there is no evidence for God because there cannot possibly be any. Evidence lends to the category of a posteriori knowledge which is by definition knowledge based upon evidence/experience.

Instead, God must be debated in terms of a priori knowledge which is knowledge that is independent of evidence/experience.

This entire thread is essentially a bunch of irrelevant arguments attacking opposing-but-equally-irrelevant arguments. Everyone here is asserting a position based upon evidence, and accordingly everyone is having the wrong discussion. Evidence shouldn't even be introduced except as corollary support for conceptual proof.

Basically, what I'm trying to get across is that it is not a good position for an atheist to take to claim that there is no evidence to prove God. Rather, it's one of the worst because the argument is totally inapplicable to the context of the debate even though the argument itself posits a correct assertion, i.e. there is no evidence to prove God exists. That's why the arguments of the FSM and teapot and otherwise continue to thrive -- it's true there is no evidence to prove God's existence, but it completely doesn't matter.

Yes, but. Through the things written in this thread, some people are going to become stronger believers in God. Hopefully some others will be saved. That makes this thread of ultimate importance.

You should probably be more concerned about the truthfulness of the information that leads a person to believe one way or another. If some people become stronger believers in God as a result of this thread, I can tell you that it wasn't because you provided them good reason to do so. Your arguments and reasoning are horrific.

I'm sorry that it is detracting from your personal faith. But then again, you sound like you didn't have much faith in the first place... if any. But there are others who have expressed that they are in the faith, even though they may not post a lot here.

However, thanks for the tip. I will try to do better. There isn't much better evidence for God than the machine-like quality of the universe. Machines have makers.