Quote from: digit on November 10, 2014, 09:59:32 PM

Quote from: CinniCoin on November 10, 2014, 07:36:28 PM

Quote from: sdersdf3 on November 10, 2014, 03:30:56 PM

Well yes i'm waiting too.
Is mintpal going to send the Cinni or atleast provide a list with their users Cinni balances and their withdrawal addresses or are they going to steal the Cinni.

You guys have to understand the consequences of disabling their address. It will prevent people from ever having a chance to get back their Cinni from mintpal.
and that is alot of people, half of Cinni is in mintpals address.
the only way those people won't lose is if we wait for mintpal to send the Cinni , or if they provide a list that has peoples Cinni balances and their withdrawal addresses.
those are the most fair ways i think that will solve this problem.
another way which might not seem fair to everyone is to find an escrow, a person which people trust and then let people who have mintpal accounts give him their log in details so the escrow can log in and see the Cinni balances of people and their withdrawal address in order to make the list manually.

I want to hear peoples thoughts on how we can solve this problem.

thats incorrect. you can disable those addresses and reenable them at any time in future release should mintpal situation change. its not fair to those who have supported cinni and the network that a few users who keep all their coins on their exchanges hold back the development of this coin. you are also misleading people that mintpal is going to give any coins back, they are not, only what was in the hot wallets, the rest is gone.

the most important thing to do is prevent any "mining"/staking/PoS blocks and spending/transactions from those addresses. otherwise you continue with a situation where the thief is believed to control a large amount of cinni and can attempt to fork, doublespend or attack the main blockchain that all other exchanges and users are on.

You should update the wallet to prevent any spending or PoS from mintpal addresses before its too late. This will allow the network to ignore those addresses and stake and prevent mintpal trying to fork or get away with stolen coins. They can always be reenable at a future date should mintpal give back what they have stolen, but this is a critical change that will prevent dumping on other exchanges.

Most people that support this coin kept Cinni in their wallets and not all on exchanges, so mintpal loss will not affect them, and the amount of cinni that is claimed to be lossed is very low, so far only 119,796 CINNI has been lost by users if you check the mintpal/moolah losses thread here "Moolah Scam on Mintpal and Missing Funds" - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=824211.0, so you are really only hurting the real supporters of your coin. There probably a bit more then that but obviously most people are unconcerned about their coins and have not put forward their losses.

Remember also not all the coins belong to users, mintpal/moolah and their pump groups they created manipulated alot of the markets and much of the coins are "exchange owned" as they successfully tricked many with their pump and dump scams. the amount of btc claimed lost is probably higher then what existed in wallets and people were likely to be trading with fake bitcoin that the exchange would have used to pump coins with.

The best thing for cinni right now is to block PoS/Staking and prevent movement of Mintpal Cinni with a wallet update. Addresses can always be unblocked with a later release but once those funds move you will lose this option.

100 % right and you digit are the true and oldest cinni supporters from the beginning.

To pawlo74
Guys what do you think about Schild ? As far as I know he left cinni and he is shadow supporter
To cinnidev
Nothing you did until people started to take action and they want to cut off you from the project
Then the action turn in the right direction and you say that you will continue to work together.
And now you decide himself in the worst way.
The same situation has already taken place a few times. A similar algorithm
When people want to takeover cinni things are going in the right direction than you appear and problems start again
The information is on several/hundreds pages back.
What is the problem with you CinniCoin