Quote from: nam-shub on November 14, 2014, 08:26:17 AM

Unfortunately this still doesn't prove anything.
The orders apparently are not being shipped in numerical order, one after the other.
it looks like MAT is shipping out a couple of random orders in hope of stalling the lawsuits that are rolling in and keeping the community confused.
And last but not least, these machines look so much like rebranded alcheminers it's uncanny.
Oh, and then there's the fact that NO ONE has received a refund yet. Many people have applied for a refund half a year ago and have seen nothing so far...

you're spot on @nam-shub -- that is exactly what it is, and how that game is played.

Do we really have to re-invent the wheel all over again and again all the time: I mean, seriously, we have mail order and all sorts of not-so-different businesses for decades now, but still nearly everyone in the Miners business is so full of shit that you can hardly believe it.

And this goes beyond the original scam artists there; seems there are aiding and abetting parties out there as well:

Reading the notes on Xircomm and Lifeforcepools with interest. Will investigate those "connections" a little further. The start looking quite "interesting". Very strange (and telling, too)... Will post updates as soon as I have new finding there.