Quote from: brg444 on November 16, 2014, 06:35:58 AM

Quote from: cypherdoc on November 16, 2014, 06:26:49 AM

Quote from: brg444 on November 16, 2014, 06:23:54 AM

Quote from: cypherdoc on November 16, 2014, 06:21:00 AM

the Blockstream bounty still applies btw Cheesy

nothing you've said has changed my mind. in fact, its all crystallized it for me.

allowing the exit of BTC from its secure blockchain via the SPVproof breaks the whole concept of the Sound Money function of Bitcoin in my book. whereas ppl would have been forced to buy into BTC to participate in Bitcoin, now they will be able to buy all sorts of SC speculative assets which will be derivatives of BTC, whether they be on federated servers or decentralized SC's. Bitcoin won't be Bitcoin anymore thus ppl should willingly do this as BTC really won't have the ability to appreciate anymore as it will no longer represent Sound Money. in essence, i see these speculative SC's, which Blockstream will be creating for fees, to be inflationary. their ledgers will be hidden and opaque and insecure as i doubt they will be mined as MM has a limited capacity.

so did you sell your Bitcoins yet?

because, you know, the federated peg sidechains are coming. Bitcoin is not Bitcoin anymore, already. Cry

i already said i don't mind federated servers as it doesn't touch source and therefore doesn't change Bitcoin.

i may even use a federated server if it has good features.

you are beyond retarded

when are you ever going to realize that federated peg create the same off-mainchain BTC scheme as SPVproof would? a sidechain, is a sidechain, is a sidechain. the method used to validate information and communicate between chains changes little. please don't give me that "institutionalized" or "systemized" bullshit.

Quote from: cypherdoc on November 16, 2014, 06:21:00 AM

whereas ppl would have been forced to buy into BTC to participate in Bitcoin, now they will be able to buy all sorts of SC speculative assets which will be derivatives of BTC, whether they be on federated servers or decentralized SC's.

So in one post federated servers are bad because they create speculative assets that diminishes Bitcoin Sound Money properties but in the next post you "may even use a federated server"

Cheesy

Lay off the drinks brother

man, you are one insolent kid.

i keep emphasizing the SPVproof b/c that is indeed what i'm against b/c it changes source, not SC's in general. you're unable to ascertain that given all the posts i've made about this? sheesh.

federated servers aren't really even on my radar as ppl are free to do whatever they want in their private communities as long as they don't come begging to change source to profit from their business model.