Quote from: fire000 on November 16, 2014, 10:25:01 AM

Not to start a fight here but "I wonder how BAN feels keeping 37.5% of the pools earnings and not paying it out to the miners? I guess that makes BAN happy

" that gets thrown back at longer rounds in a PPS and in theory over time it balances out around the 100 percent mark luck wise.... where some rounds are short and others longer but it should balance out.... where one should be earning around their expected rigs earn or close to it over a week... If there a huge difference then there something major wrong with the payout system eg the P2 pool system where you have close to 3 weeks data and it running at a payout of 60 percent of a expect rigs earn warning alarms should be sounding in these cases NOT on a pool that paying out people expected earn and has for months now and as an added bounus the pool op been kind to us miners by wearing a bounus out of his pocket to look after his miners that have helped him get the pool up and test it and help deal with bugs to get it where it is today

It also a good sign that a PPS pool has a 37.5 percent buffer there to play with for these longer rounds as it reserve funds

Not to be mean, or point anything bad out about you, BUT for a person with low trust on his profile you seem to have more intelligence on business economics than these children running this other pool (YES KANO I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU) I left that wide open for a more intelligent person to explain it to him because after I proofread my post I knew with all certainty kano would make a fool of himself and show everyone exactly little he knows about running a pool.

Quote from: kano on November 16, 2014, 09:37:18 AM

I wonder how BAN feels keeping 37.5% of the pools earnings and not paying it out to the miners? I guess that makes BAN happy

NOW ONTO KANO AND HIS BULLSHIT HAHAHA

Quote from: kano on November 16, 2014, 09:37:18 AM

Quote from: cyberpinoy on November 16, 2014, 09:10:30 AM

Please sir tell me what did I use to deceive anyone about the pool. Those numbers were pulled directly from Visible stats displayed and updated on the site. (stats your pool seems to be missing) ANYONE even you can go there and do the math, just because you do not like the result of the research and calculations and they do not fall in line with your bashing and FUD of this pool does not make them any less factual does it?

You have a LOT of nerve for a person who owns a pool with nothing of value available to see
NO visible user stats,

Incorrect, they are visible to anyone who has an account - there is however, still no history of them yet.

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No visible pool stats,

Incorrect, they are visible to anyone who has an account - there is however, still no history of them yet.

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No ratings,
No rankings.

So? (though the pool stats does show all user's current rankings)

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You have nothing actually where newcomers can see what your pool is doing or what it is paying out on the blocks you have mined, You keep flaping your lips about this 200% payout to your loyal miners yet show no proof of it. You complain that it is not possible for a pool to pay 10% over what it mines yet you say you are able to pay 200% over what you mine to your loyal miners that confused me a bit.

Incorrect.
I have already pointed out to miners how to get that information.
It is beyond reproach ... it is in the blockchain, for each block, clearly visible.
So although a web site can lie about the payouts, in my pool's case, the blockchain shows each block's payout.
It will be available on the web site at a later date.

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Please stop contradicting yourself sir.

Where?

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Why are you mad at me. ANYONE can easily go on the BaN website and pull the transparently visible facts and see for themselves where the payouts are coming from, what the payouts are, they can even estimate what their own earnings would be, and they can see how that bonus can be paid and still allow for a small profit overall.

Of course the numbers shown on BAN MAY be facts.
Interpreting them by falsehood, oddly enough, is not fact.

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Like a flaming candle I can see your temper rising with every post you make, its not nice when YOU are backed in a corner of your own deciept and bullshit is it? HAHAHAHA

Oh, I feel so unhappy, I don't know how I'm going to deal with it, damn I guess I'll just have to keep paying out 99.1% of the pools earnings to the miners and see if that makes me feel better. Yes it does

I wonder how BAN feels keeping 37.5% of the pools earnings and not paying it out to the miners? I guess that makes BAN happy

Well I started an account with your pool not to mine there cause PPLNS pools are bullshit profit houses for pool owners no matter how much yu want to deny it, the math tells a different story than you, so when it comes to truth Ill side with the numbers and throw your word down the toilette where it belongs.

As I logged in I did not see ANY magical stats appear like i see on Ban, I did not see a ststistics page at all, you have a few realtime stats about sumbitted shares in the top right but nothing of real use as those stats tell you nothing in a PPLNS pool. you would ahve to try and do a long mathmatical equation in order to see what yo9u might get paid per share but you cant estimate your earning in any way because it is a PPLNS pool.

Its sad to say but in your pathetic excuse of trying to make yourself look good and BaN look bad yu only made yourself look stupid actually.

Quote from: kano on November 16, 2014, 09:37:18 AM

Oh, I feel so unhappy, I don't know how I'm going to deal with it, damn I guess I'll just have to keep paying out 99.1% of the pools earnings to the miners and see if that makes me feel better. Yes it does

I wonder how BAN feels keeping 37.5% of the pools earnings and not paying it out to the miners? I guess that makes BAN happy

Without going into detail if a newbie would read this and not understand basic business economics then he could clearly see you sir are not very intelligent, you say in other posts its impossible for a PPS pool to make a profit, then here you say he is making a 37.5% profit to your 0.01% profit. that saddest part of your excuse here just judging by this line alone no real math involved with blocks mined before this , we see BaN pays his members more than you and still has some left over much like any business should do.

So are you trying to say BaN bis doing something right where you are not, what is your point here?

You contradict yourself clearly when you complained a pool could not be transparant if they paid 10% over thir mined income, but then turned around and said your pool was able to pay 200% vto their miners.

I wont keep going about that lets just sum it up by saying in simple terms everytime you try to post FUD against BaN you seemingly contradict yourself. I read a lot of your posts actually and anytime your opinion is hit with facts to disprove what you "know" to be true, you begin to contradict yourself.

Kano I am not sure why you have this desire to bash BaN but your pathetic attempt to do so is proving you have non knowledge how to run a pool, you havbe no ability ton use a calculator and do your own diligent math, you have no idea what a good pay structure is, you have a hard time telling the truth, and you clearly HATE when facts are presented in your face that prove you wrong. Please grow up because with every post you make I wonder how young you really are, the immaturity in the responses both with how much pool mining intelligence you lack to the basic mathmatical ability to reearch something shine thru with every one of your posts.. this last post show how far out on a limb you really are trying to go to discredit BaN. Learn to stop while your ahead, you lost this war you seemingly have with BaN just deal with it Bro.