Quote from: snitch on November 18, 2014, 03:35:55 AM

Quote from: Bitalo_Martin on November 18, 2014, 01:53:15 AM

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No, it is OUR bounty. Roger Ver is just doing the escrow service, because he is a well respected and neutral member of the bitcoin community and as a proof that the coins will really be paid.

I also recommend everybody to please contact Roger directly for technicalities like bounty payouts.

But why are you all talking so theoretically. In case you really have some useful information about his identity, then you should also know in which jurisdiction he is located and you can easily see via google if this would be convicted or not. The blockchain timestamp is just to prove that you had the evidence first.

In case you dont even know the jurisdiction, then I would assume that you have anything.

But seriously, what do you have to lose. The important part is just to prove the identity. If you HAVE it why should you not make it public in the blockchain and see what happens, why should he not be convicted? In case he is a minor or whatever I am sure Roger would still count this as a full finding. Someone else will take care of him in a different way, I am sure about that, if not his mum. :-)

I've clearly said numerous times. Your hacker is in the united states. I think I've said that to you least 10 times.
That is not theoretical. And I HAVE uploaded to the blockchain. Why do you keep referring to "if's"?
You know I submitted it because we talked about that in our PM and I sent you this link:
http://www.proofofexistence.com/detail/b2427aa196f7b9ceefa30f200ed84830e5e1c37ce3062e659e8b6aa3605fe500

You have not really addressed anything in my post above about the bounty. You are not even clarifying the things you have said in relationship to the bitcoinbounty instructions.

I still don't understand why you are escrowing your own bounty - this defeats the actual purpose of an escrow. Basically you are saying there is no actual escrow because Roger Ver is funding the bounty and escrowing it...You also did not clarify why these bounties are listed separately on the bitcoin bounty hunter page. You can clearly see here that your bounty for 100btc, and a separate bounty for 37btc via Roger Ver. I told you a couple days ago that I had proof that these two cases were related to the same hacker, anyway - but you don't even want to talk about what that would mean in terms of the bounty. Would the informant get both bounties when they prove it's the same guy in both instances?

You also never clarified why the directions on the bounty say clearly NOT TO SUBMIT the info to you,
and then why you asked me to send you a direct copy of it to your email, despite these directions.

You are not really being clear about anything at all. And to tell ya the truth, I've seen at least one other poster maybe two, also ask about the reliability of how the bounty is set up. let me break this down for you. no american agency is going to extradite your hacker to Europe to face charges in a foreign country for a small timer ddos attack on you. the conviction requirement on your bounty is nearly impossible to attain.

"what have you got to loose".... um, let's not be condescending here. You are asking for help, not vice versa. This is not the bitalo lottery. Any informant risks retribution from this hacker after he is snitched on. Obviously that sucks & is probable. Let's be real here.

Plus you are starting to appear a little bit like you are intending to be unclear when you speak.
I apologize if I am misjudging you right now, but honestly I've asked you numerous times to be clear about specific things and you don't seem to make any effort to meet me half way in that conversation - and I actually find that quite odd.

Didn't I see some email somewhere that dd4bc only requested 1 whole bitcoin from you? But you turn around with a combined bounty of 100 bitcoin?
MAYBE, you assumed that the only person who would respond to your bounty would be the criminal himself or the criminals accomplice or friend. Perhaps you assumed you could TRICK the hacker/hackers into snitching on each other - and this is why you set the bounty so dramatically high in comparison to what the hacker tried to hijack you for.

Perhaps you thought under those circumstances, you would never have to pay the bounty to the informant. Maybe this is why you seem so reluctant to want to work with me on understanding your bounty and how we can make a fair effective trade. I have no idea what to think. I would hate to think that but you do seem to evade direct concerns about things.

NOTHING about this bounty makes sense to me.

The only thing that does not make sense is this discussion.

-It is OUR bounty (paid by me) that is hosted on Bitcoinbountyhunter as a neutral and objective host.

-When he is in the US, I really dont see any problem that conviction would fail. I dont require that he is persecuted in Europe, if he gets a 50 dollar fine in the US thats already a conviction.

-In case any conviction is not possible for OBVIOUS reasons (like he is a minor child or the highly immune president himself) then I am sure Roger will acknlowledge that.

-All questions should please go to Roger Ver directly, since he will ultimatively decide if the proof is sufficient.

-Third party escrow is the fairest method ever. Coins are locked for us and you have a neutral escrow for all kind of questions. And no, there will be no bounty splitups or outside payments from our side outside of the official bounty programme.