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But the idea itself is amazing , it's why i invested , this isn't just a coin for a simple quick deposit , this is a crypto currency that has been made specifically for the most popular use that crypto currency currently has, with a very expensive and well made online casino. The chance of longevity and an opportunity to have a completely 100% passive income of doing nothing and sitting on your ass with your wallet open to earn money every day. for years and years to come. It has life long earning potential .

Yes. The idea of Bergstake is so powerful for a couple of reasons. The first is the one mentioned above. The second is they created a "sticky" community. Even if everyone that invested in the ICO sells their coins, we have the Bergstake forever. As long as Breakoutgaming is ongoing, everyone of us will forever have an interest in this project. None of us will ever say, "I dumped my coins so I have no interest anymore, good luck bagholders Grin

". Similar to what Bitshares did with Angelshares (Best crypto investment I made so far), I have an interest in Bitshares and Breakoutgaming for life now. I love projects that let me lock up my interest for the long-term because 5-10 years out is when we are going to see the real returns.

This is why I wouldn't mind another 4 or 5 day coin sale after some gaming demo releases, not only to raise more funds, but to give more people the chance to buy Genesis BRO + Bergstake, thus growing this "sticky" community.

Quote from: barabbas on November 18, 2014, 07:18:42 PM

As usual, the greedy, nutcases, running amok...
Question: How is this entire project now, one day before the ICO closes, any closer to actually happen than a month ago? Not even half the minimum required to launch has been collected... A re-sale, with nothing new (a working ready-for-testing platform) on the table, at the current or even higher price? You have got to be kidding... I mean, you can be deluded as much as you want to be but everyone that ever wanted to know about this project already does. Everyone with actual money to invest, that is. And, unless there are significant changes (like a working, ready-for-testing platform), no one will put a single cent more on this project. Not a 3000/1btc, not at 6600/1btc. Not at ANY price.
Once again, my suggestion: Do it right. Start from scratch again... but with a product (a working, ready-for-testing platform) to back all the claims of the project. Forget about the peculiar concept of "fair" and start thinking "business". Then you will have something that people will invest in. I know I will. Many others too. And if some of the "children" are not happy because they believe it is "unfair", just refund their money and that will make it as fair as it can be. Very sim-ple... if you have a product to sell. Otherwise, you are selling, on a very fancy way, a nice lot of front beach property in Arizona.

That's called "Venture Risk".

When Wall Street Journal reporter asked Mr. Liew, of Lightspeed VC firm if its risky to put money into LedgerX's pre-launch whose business model is centered on getting government approval in a sector that has gotten none. Mr. Liew replied: Its venture risk, . Its possible that it doesnt work out, but you find the people who have the best possible chance to do it."

You already know this project has much better chances of reaching top MarketCap spots than any other project out there, that's why you're sticking around.

Fronting a Poker face may do you well when playing BreakoutGames, but not when offering low balling suggestions to these Devs though.

As usual. you are just blinded by your own greed.

Let's make it clear for others -since you are out of reach completely-" I have been here since day one, supporting this idea that I consider is great, launched at the worst possible time and without anything solid (a working platform) that can support it. Without that my support remains just testimonial for I won't invest in beach property in Arizona. Not many, at this point in the crypto game -as obviated by the results- do. Contrary to your extremely short thinking capability, EVEN with a decent test-ready platform, the success of the coin launch is far from guaranteed, mostly due to the extreme scarcity of available funds in crypto at the moment.

That out of the way, I made a suggestion because this, in case you still refuse to see it, is a train wreck, a project that will NOT happen.

There's no "private sale" possible. That is simply an euphemism for the BG team to keep the 8.3 million coins + bergstake and paying themselves for it, an INSTAMINE of gigantic proportions, you get that? And no matter where you put it of what you show in lieu of a working platform, and even if you do show one, No one is going to pay more than double the price it was given to the first investors, deal with that reality because it is crashing hard upon you.

What I suggested is a potential solution that I am convinced will provide the minimal result required and maybe even more than that. Doing things right instead of this mess. You don't offer any real alternative and what you pretend to pass for an alternative -which would require the approval of BTER, not an easy feat by any means-, will materialize very quickly in another terrible failure for, again, no one is going to pay for this -in significant amounts-- more than double what others did. But I may be wrong and you may be right, I just think no one is going to be crazy enough or capable even to test your "idea" while mine is easily done and can be tested in one week's time... if the platform is ready.

I "stick around" a lot of coins, some I am invested in some I am not. Currently as I have stated many times, I only have a testimonial interest in BRO. And I would like for it to be successful for, I repeat, I believe it is a great idea. But, in the current state, it simply won't. And it won't either if they were to try your outrageous approach, in my opinion, of course.

Oh and in case you keep on forgetting, a LOT of NOTHING is just as much as NOTHING of NOTHING. Take a moment or two to digest that.

You're a funny guy Barabbas...

First you spread FUD and call out BRO team for zero transparency, most likely to scare people from obtaining more BRO in the beginning of the ICO:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808648.msg9105589#msg9105589

Then once the ICO price started to rise and leave you behind, you want BRO team to restart the ICO so you can buy more coins at the absolute best rate possible. I hate to break it to you, but as Blue_Wave & others said, it's too late to restart the ICO now; most investors will simply walk away. Furthermore, your "idea" of issuing refunds is far from being "easily done" since many investors don't have access to BTC addresses where they sent their BTC from (ie. funds sent from BTC wallets on exchanges)

Running a coin sale is obviously not MY idea, BRO team already stated that to raise more funds to reach 700 btc & distribute more Genesis BRO + Bergstake:

Quote from: BreakoutCoin on October 28, 2014, 11:31:23 PM

OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:
Hello Breakout Community. The previous announcement post was for discussion of proposed ideas. Breakout Coin Team will implement the following changes after listening to feedback from the community.
A. Elimination of the PoW stage and the 7 million coins that would cause dilution of the market over a two yr period.
B. Bergstake to begin from day one, allowing Bergstake owners ability to earn block rewards from day one.
C. Increasing the pool of BRO coins in the "coin sale" from 5.5 million to 10 million.
D. Approx 700 btc goal for initial phase
E. If the total amount of btc raised falls short of the proposed 700 btc amount, we will raise the remaining amount through a "private" sale.
F. Once the 700 btc criteria is met, the "coin sale" will end.
G. Remaining coins will be sold at a later date to be announced by Breakout Coin on this forum.
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I just proposed that they should first release game demos to attract more PR & build more investor confidence, before launching a 5 day coin Sale, preferably hosted by an exchange like BTER or BITTREX, to attract more investors. (Eventhough I trust my funds with BRO team, much more than with those exchanges)

First of all I am not just funny, I am brilliant! And if you catch me on pay-per-view, I am downright hilarious.... But that's besides the point: You got it all wrong, as usual. First, I never, ever, FUD. Nor lie. Ever. Second, I demand transparency from every coin I am interested in, not just BRO. And, since my handle is quite public and I host both THE WALL OF SHAME and THE WALL OF HONOR, I always post any conflicting interest. I know this kind of honesty is completely impossible to understand to you but it does exist. And I practice it. I leave the clumsy and pretty inefficient attempts nat manipulating to you and other greedy bastards like you blind like stones, alright?

The second part of your post, I have been proposing the release of a testing platform since the start. Obviously none is available although one was promised it would be delivered long before this date. Without it I would have to assume than not even you would pretend that making any offer on any exchange would produce results any more positive than the paltry ones we have as of now. I might be wrong and you may actually be proposing such unbelievably absurd thing... for such is the nature of the individual.

Apologies to others to be a bit snappy but you would understand it gets to a point where diplomacy simply takes a back seat.

A quick glimpse at your post history shows that you're hated by all coin communities that you plagued with your parasitic FUD.
I didn't read much into it when someone said in previous pages that FUDing coins is your full-time job but now I totally believe them:

Quote from: ereborltc on October 26, 2014, 07:31:04 AM

barabbas is here trying to tell the devs what to do as usual... I wouldn't listen to a word this guy has to say , look at his track record he goes from thread to thread spreading fud or havoc lol literally his day job, vericoin ..pinkcoin.. he's well known in most bct threads.

anyway good luck the project seems great! very big bummer barabbas is in here gonna drive people away while he tries to manipulate and destroy this brand new community Wink

Just because you feel the urge to be "right" all the time, it doesn't mean that you should parade your thoughts and feelings with such impulsiveness.

I have no choice but to join the voices in this thread calling for your ban, because your negativity is just not healthy for this community.

I completely agree.

The negativity from barabbas is more than unhealthy it is verging on the psychotic. And yes I fully understand what that term means which is why I use it in that context.

If the questions I had asked were not fully backed up with enough substance for me to be sure enough to invest then I would Fuck off. I wouldn't invest and I would let them get on with it.

Sadly, barabbas feels the need to make all our decisions for us; of course what in gods earth would we know about anything? We are only silly stupid morons that really need saving from ourselves.

I would be willing to debate with barabbas on a healthy level but unfortunately there is no take on his behalf - there is only his correct opinion; and when I come to that assumption his credibility flies out the window like his brain did many years ago. I have sat here and watch this arsehole FUD a coin to death and even then he stays with the thread, throwing his shit.

Please please please ban him. I have invested quite a lot of btc in this project and I don't want to see my investment devalued in any way because of him.