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Re: [ANN][HYP] HyperStake | 750% PoS | Advanced Coin Control Wallet | 11 Markets
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PressF1
on 20/11/2014, 00:59:15 UTC
damn I missed that deal!! I'll be looking closer now. lots of ppl are selling.. Oh well, there loss our gain!!

TBH it looks like HYP is still going down. When max gen kicks in December 6th ( Assuming this is correct) prices should either spike up briefly and stabilize. Right now I need some BTC to buy some HYP though Tongue

I sort of cringe a bit when I hear "when inflation control kicks in" or phrases like that (nothing personal against you mtwelve, everyone has been saying it). Ask yourself, have you been sizing your outputs/blocks differently than you would if there was no 1,000 HYP max stake reward?  If the answer is yes, then this is proof that inflation control has already kicked in.

Now the question of "max gen" kicking in.  Well this is a bit misleading as well, because there is a large chance that we don't see every single stake in one day hit the limit.  I think it was biomech that pointed this out, that it is much more likely that we get close to the max coin supply expansion per day, but that it will vary from day to day near that range.

Haha true. But difficulty will increase, and 1k block will be hit more and more often ( have two blocks that have with age of 14+). Will make sure to phrase correctly from now on Smiley

Yeah no kidding.. We are gonna start peaking at 3+ here pretty soon on difficulty

This is not as complicated as it's being made out to be.

When using terms like "inflation control"...
The only thing that matters here is Money Supply growth...
How fast are those 46,051,232 coins growing relative to a previous period?

As for how...
It doesn't matter if you have midgets wrestling for blocks...
Or naked women are dropping stake blocks from helicopters over Gotham City.

Also, referencing the 750% nominal rate as "static" is meaningless...
Since people staking correctly are doing MUCH more than that...
(I'm doing a REAL rate of 5,000-6,000% annual if compounded daily)...
And when the Max Generation kicks in the REAL rate will gradually drop to zero over time.

It's all about Money Supply growth and since you have the information...
Please tell us the Money Supply Pct Growth for each of the last 4 weeks...
Or a graph... or any other format you may have available.

Clarity on this is a good way to restore market confidence.



You are quite right. That's why I report inflation on a monthly basis in the cap thread. Last report:



High POS HBN-CAP-TEK-HYP Inflation update

So how are we doing inflation-wise in October? Are thing evolving as expected or not?

First HBN, 100% POS with POW.

Date       block           supply   Inflation
1-6-2014   898413   4629448   12,7%
1-7-2014   988559   5068546   9,5%
1-8-2014   1080369   5521192   8,9%
1-9-2014   1173120   5985846   8,4%
1-10-2014   1262548   6467925   8,1%
1-11-2014   1357005   6990000   8,1%

I couldn't catch the exact supply and rely on Tranz's estimation. It shows the lowest inflation of all which is quite stable as well. October shows no decrease though. Could be because staking efficiency has improved a bit since splitting and recombining level is raised to 5/10. Could also be because October has 31 days Smiley. We'll see what next month brings!


CAP, 200% POS with POW

Date       block           supply   Inflation
1-6-2014   476848   3680285   7,6%
1-7-2014   519426   4046888   10,0%
1-8-2014   565946   4812616   18,9%
1-9-2014   613331   5583618   16,0%
1-10-2014   662054   6367469   14,0%
1-11-2014   713617   7311008   14,8%

Quite steady as well, as mentioned before, rates rised after 4-7 hard fork but decreased al little soon after. Now we see a little increase. We have to await until next month to see if it's a new trend or not.


TEK, 500% POS with POW

Date       block           supply   Inflation
1-6-2014   382532   986066   37,9%
1-7-2014   425505   1349745   36,9%
1-8-2014   469608   1830289   35,6%
1-9-2014   514595   2113023   15,4%
1-10-2014   569714   2421990   14,6%
1-11-2014   621243   3138853   29,6%

As expected, TEK almost returned to pre-fork levels once more. The after-fork-simultaniously-staking pressure brought down the stake percentage quite strong but only temporarily as it now seems. It likely to assume that next month the inflation level is up and above 30% again.


HYP, 750% POS, no POW

Date       block   supply   Inflation
1-8-2014   44901   10557791   24,4%
1-9-2014   74355   14826453   40,4%
1-10-2014   103019   22309537   50,5%
1-11-2014   132376   34665433   55,4%

Last month shows an increase of the inflation of HYP. It only means the staking is getting more and more efficient and produces a stake ever closer to 1000 which is the max stake for this coin. Since the stake percentage isn't decreasing with stake weight, it's fair to assume that inflation will eventually level out and then decrease much like a POW-coin with a 1000 block-reward. The thing that really surprises me though, is the absence of strong price-erosion due to this enormous inflation thus producing an impressive market cap. A most interesting experiment indeed.

UPDATE: Well my last comments are pretty much outdated now, but that's more something for the next report