Quote from: ScryptAsic on November 20, 2014, 05:42:54 AM

Quote from: cbeast on November 20, 2014, 05:06:17 AM

Quote from: Ruthful on November 20, 2014, 04:49:49 AM

Quote from: cbeast on November 20, 2014, 03:10:23 AM

They would only find decoys unless they knew exactly how many layers deep the cold storage bitcoins are buried. Then they need to know how deep the n factor authentication is buried. Then they need to know what countries and have the authority to find where the multisignature and SSS keys are hidden. Your street thug will need "a particular set of skills" to pull that off.

Do you not read the part about "kidnap and torture"?We're not talking about hackers here(and even they use social engineering to do so if they could).

No ,they only need to know who the person who that holds that bitcoin and torture them to hand their key. If they couldn't/refuse to cooperate ,well too bad ,you're dead.S/he need not be a technical expert to do this , the depravity and willingness to inflict pain and fear are the only "a particular set of skills" necessary.The simplest way break a unbreakable safe is always to get it from someone who knows the key.

No, you don't understand Bitcoin at all. Sure they can kill you, so what? They get nothing. And guess what, there are also ways to hide the information necessary for heirs to receive the bitcoins in the event of your death at a future date. I won't even get into the ways bitcoins can be used for anonymous vigilantism in the event of a death by foul play.

I think the greater threat is the threat of death. IMO most people are not going to want to die in order to protect their bitcoin/money. Although it would be possible for someone to only give information that would allow an attacker to access a portion of their bitcoin, an attacker could potentially forcibly administer any number of drugs that makes people more willing to give up information and makes it more difficult for them to hide information

That's why you use layers. Drugs cause states of consciousness that make difficult sequences hard to recall. Keys can be made to trigger alarms that alert trusted assets that can trap or track adversaries to reveal their positions for law enforcement or other forms of justice.