Quote from: iCEBREAKER on November 21, 2014, 07:08:18 PM

Quote from: jaysabi on November 21, 2014, 06:51:23 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on November 21, 2014, 03:32:58 AM

The US Constitution was artfully constructed to avoid such tyranny of the majority via a Republic checked and balanced by various mechanisms (Electoral College, Bill of Rights, Separation of Powers, etc).

Old people on fixed incomes move the hell away from jurisdictions where the moochers of the FSA have a majority or plurality.

I'm interested to know where you draw the line between people having rights and people having the authority to make laws that affect other people's rights.

It's a difficult question because the answer varies depending on local conditions.

The federal authority must be strictly libertarian (IE minimally statist).

The 50 States and their constituent regions/counties/municipalities/school districts/homeowner associations are laboratories of democracy which experiment with the trade offs between security and liberty to find the optimum balance and compete in the marketplace of jurisdictions to acquire citizens to pay taxes and consume their services.

I choose to live in a place where economic freedom is relatively low but personal freedom is relatively high. It's not a perfect fit, but the weather is really nice! Grin

(Does that mean Florida?)

In response to this here, and also what you just wrote in the other topic about this same subject:

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on November 21, 2014, 07:16:11 PM

I am against any Federal regulations on sandwich distribution. I support the right of individuals to form communities that do regulate sandwich distribution if they so please.

My question then is are you OK with limitations on individual freedom as long as they don't come from the federal level? I suppose I'm trying to find the line between where my absolute right to not be restricted in my actions meets your right to freedom of association, and by extension to use force to restrict actions of mine you don't like.

I personally don't put much emphasis on the distinction between use of force by the feds vs. use of force by the states or local governments. It seems to me either we are free or we are not. The manner by which we are not free (feds vs. local authority) is not very critical.