Quote from: tvbcof on November 23, 2014, 12:16:50 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on November 22, 2014, 08:30:27 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on November 22, 2014, 05:19:15 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on November 22, 2014, 12:27:13 AM

IF IT'S COLD IT'S HOT!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/20/theres-growing-evidence-that-global-warming-is-driving-crazy-winters/

That's the sick twisted way these guys think.

Seems to me a viable hypothesis. .....

Consider the following.

Mid latitudes warm, it is of course attributed to Global Warming.

Mid latitudes chill, it is.....attributed TO GLOBAL WARMING!

The hypothesis which at first seems plausible, on examination has a little problem.

I submit that a more likely explanation is the phenomena called in Old-Speak...

....summer...and...winter...

To be fair, an increased amplitude and oscillation of the jetstream due to human induced factors or otherwise could produce the described effect. But again, so fuckin' what? Are we going to condemn those who have not 'made it' to a life of abject poverty and sterilization and downgrade our own standard of living to a point where we cannot cope with issues on the very dubious conjectures that

- it is our fault
- we could do anything substantive about it even if we tried
- we would not fuck things up even worse by trying

I say 'nope', especially since most of the 'science' which the whole climate scare is based on is questionable at best and pretty clearly in significant part a scam by control freaks. Let's deal with the issues (if there are any) as humans always have; by adapting. And if there are genuine issues to deal with then let's put some effort toward helping the less adaptable creatures as best we reasonably can. That's my vote.

Oh, we are in agreement. I've only brought up this issue of the cold-means-hot because it illustrates quite clearly the subjugation of climate science to the liars. I understand that at first glance the argument appears plausible, but you need to look a bit wider.

Mull this over. Two separate facts.

1. It has not warmed in 20 years.
2. The jet stream has drifted a bit south.

These mutually confirm the hypothesis that the EARTH IS NOT WARMING, at least not for the last 20 years. I'm sure you can see that #1 and #2 are consistent with the hypothesis. They do not confirm the opposite.

Caviat: Remember, "climate" is periods of 30 years so we don't quite have 30 years of no warming yet, therefore (regardless of what short time periods the alarmists choose to use) we can't say the CLIMATE has not warmed yet.