Quote from: neoneros on November 26, 2014, 01:49:32 PM

There is a big difference in dressing up as a rabbit or friendly obese white man on the one side and dressing up as a black man using stereotypes that originated from an era where segregation was normal.
The whiteman stereo type is not a negative one, the blackface stereo type does have a negative origin. White men have never been oppressed, been looked down upon as inferior or been exhibited in a zoo(not so long ago: http://www.doorbraak.eu/gebladerte/11507f99.htm in dutch)

The discussion explodes every time because of the underlying problem of the racism that still lives strong. Dutch people are more racist than they are willing to admit. They still feel superior. it is not just 1%. 1% does not get mr Wilders and his Princenvlag friends enough votes to sit on the pluche.

Children do not care, that is what the experiment someone else talked about illustrates very nicely, they just want a fairytale to believe in and they will believe whatever you tell them and show them, if you dress up as someone else, they believe with their shortsighted minds that there is someone else and the other person is gone. They will fill the gap with their vast imagination. If Zwarte piet changes their minds will accept with no hessitation. It is the racist parents and adults with their fixed unimaginative brains that do not want to see that change is not a problem.

I think you underestimate children... Especially those that already knew zwarte piet. Children have anything but shortsighted minds and they will ask questions, believe me!
Also the dutch people have been called racists for so many times by people like you that in time they are starting to believe it...

What do you want when people migrate to your country, you are putting their ways above yours and still you're being called a racist.
Simple example, when you ask a Muslim woman to take of here veil it's called racists while it's an insult to all western woman who had to fight for woman's rights (you wanted an example of white suppression, it existed and still exists between men and women).

Sorry but if you go that way then all suppressing ways or symbols should be banned because it's racial...

Also I'm Belgian and have many black friends. They don't care about zwarte piet! I have nothing to do with mr wilders.