Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on November 26, 2014, 02:22:04 PM

Quote from: fire000 on November 26, 2014, 08:37:01 AM

Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on November 25, 2014, 09:11:20 PM

Since it wasn't mentioned in the original post, I'd like to post the numbers for p2pool, and to quite effectively put fire000's ravings out to pasture - especially his claims that p2pool's payment system is flawed/broken/whatever. Months ago he brought those same claims to the p2pool thread. I'd like to post actual numbers here.

From 8/9 until today I have had 8 Antminer S3s mining on p2pool. I mine on my own node. I've actually been mining on p2pool since April; however, during that time I have had multiple different hash rates from numerous different miners (S1s, S2, SP10, S3s) and have tried out numerous different pools like Eligius, BTCGuild, GHash.io, etc. The only reason I chose to start this report on 8/9 was because from that day until today I've had only the 8 S3s running, and they have only been mining on p2pool.

I used http://www.retrocalc.net to calculate what the expected earnings of 3.52TH/s are from 8/9 until 11/24. The expected mined amount during that timeframe is 6.2788BTC for that hashing rate. From p2pool, I have mined 7.26466827BTC.

P2Pool has paid me 0.98586827BTC above expectations, in other words, 115.70% of expected payout.

Is there anyone that has been mining on BAN with this same hash rate for this timeframe who can post their numbers? I'd like to see an actual, fair and honest comparison. There used to be a great thread comparing Eligius, BTCGuild and p2pool here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=416933.0. Unfortunately, that thread hasn't been updated in quite some time.

Thanks.

PS - I also merge mine NMC, DVC, IXC, I0C and FSC on my node. All proceeds from those coins I have earned have been donated back to the p2pool community by me, and are not included in my earnings above. The above numbers are strictly mined BTC on p2pool.

LMAO numbers where posted to back up the above claim even the BTC aaddress and the nodes etc that were used for the test... If you care to trace back the data it shows clear as days the P2pool paying at less than 50 percent of the rigs expected earn for the test period

So try again

PS I do not see any data to back this claim of yours so once again " I am yet to see ANY ONE in this whole thread shot down sorbs and ban claim in the heading or the opening post[/b]

I have dropped a traceable data source eg in the early posts in this thread to back the above statement re it paying at less the 50 percent

SO taps and waits to see some real data not numbers pulled out of my ass as you have done above dropping numbers but no data that can be followed back to blocks etc... I also notice the p2 trolls have gone very quite since the traceable data was dropped that alone says enough in it self

Traceable data?

Here's the wallet address I've mined to: 1DeVLDoGvkbbB5n3dPvbpDbwiKGjYckCy9
Feel free to check it out. You can look at the payout history here: http://minefast.coincadence.com/miner.php?id=1DeVLDoGvkbbB5n3dPvbpDbwiKGjYckCy9&blockoffset=0

That's about as clear as it can be.

You have posted a set of specific dates where the luck proved to be bad. That's the nature of luck. It can be good OR bad. I have posted 3.5 months of data and payouts clearly showing p2pool has not only met, but beaten, expectations.

EDIT: you'll notice that nowhere in my post have I bashed BAN, or made any comment about any of s0br's claims. I have specifically stated that p2pool was left out of the comparison in the original post, and have corrected your false statements that p2pool's payout system is somehow flawed. I did ask for somebody who has mined on BAN with a comparable hash rate to mine to please step forward and provide their numbers so we can see a head-to-head comparison between the pools.

EDIT 2: Just for fun, I checked everything from the time BAN opened its doors (I used the announcement on BAN's website of 7/20/2014 as the start date) and compared that to my mining on p2pool for the same timeframe: 7/20/2014 until 11/26/2014. As before, I used http://retrocalc.net to figure out the expected earnings during this timeframe for my hash rate. During this time, I have had S1s, SP10 and S3s mining. I sold the S1s and the SP10 and the dates and data reflect them hashing until I unplugged them and shipped them out. Here are the results:

Miners and dates, with hash rate and expected earnings
7/20 - 7/30, 2xS1 @ 400GH/s. Expected: 0.1121BTC
7/20 - 11/26 1xS3 @ 440GH/s. Expected: 1.0367BTC
7/20 - 11/26 1xS3 @ 420GH/s. Expected: 0.9896BTC
7/20 - 8/1 1xSP10 @ 1.35TH/s. Expected: 0.4509BTC
8/1 - 11/26 3xS3 @ 1.32TH/s. Expected: 2.6692BTC
8/9 - 11/26 3xS3 @ 1.32TH/s. Expected: 2.3875BTC

Expected total earnings from mining: 7.646BTC

Actual mined BTC: 8.61186032BTC

Difference: 0.96586032BTC

P2Pool has beaten expectations for the time period that BAN has been in existence by 12.6%. In other words, p2pool has paid 112.63% of expected earnings.

Feel free to check the data. Here are the addresses to which I've mined:
1DeVLDoGvkbbB5n3dPvbpDbwiKGjYckCy9
1H2uK38p6XEpiqPkECVNpC3CSTWxVwPGBS
1FEztNFHXvx7pCDSVy4xJ9JGxFGFSDKNXg
1BST6cuZ2ZhpsFaq3eY1xwFKzEDLfAWgqF
1DLcDRVncY7Zasd91oBw12XrQfLPohtNZP
1FWTtUBVk9XdkrfWkvS3uBN6CRkGgaMrQv

You can validate this against the blockchain, as well as see the payouts by going to http://minefast.coincadence.com/miner.php and plugging each of those addresses.

Therefore, in the OP, the rankings should put p2pool as the number 1 paying pool. By the way, I checked out the test as linked in the OP. Nowhere does that test give actual proof of wallet addresses that can be verified as I have. If I use the exact dates as that test, here are the numbers:

10/20 - 10/27 8xS3 @ 440GH/s. Expected: 0.3485BTC. Actual: 0.60947698BTC. Difference of 0.26097698BTC.

During the tested timeframe, p2pool beat expectations by 74.86%. You're reading that right. During the timeframe from 10/20 - 10/27, p2pool paid 174.86% of expected earnings, which absolutely destroys any other of the tested pools. Once again, please feel free to validate my data. During that time, I mined to 1DeVLDoGvkbbB5n3dPvbpDbwiKGjYckCy9.

So, in conclusion, p2pool has consistently beaten expectations and has beaten BAN's payouts.

JUST to correct some fud in this post and the poster should of picked up on it when they posted the other thread and a few other pools

EDIT: semaster has updated his comparison thread of p2pool vs Eligius vs BTCGuild. The thread is located here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=416933.0. According to his tests, p2pool is in the lead paying:

p2pool - BTC16.9718 VS btcguild (PPLNS) - BTC16.0933 VS Eligius BTC15.8041

Using his 6 S1s @ 1080GH/s total, expected earnings for that timeframe (2/1 - 10/30) are: 18.0886BTC. So, none of his tested pools have met expectations. However, p2Pool still wins here at 93.83% of expectations.

JUST A CORRECTION TO THE ABOVE STATEMENT BAN IN FACT THE HIGHER PAYING POOL.....

now to explain it lol

take that eligius number that is a PPS pool like BAN but the difference is BAN is paying a bonus 10 percent on top of the normal 100 percent paying PPS now factor that in to the eligius numbers

10 percent of a not 100 percent paying PPS pool (due to the share shelving that eligus does) is 15.8041 x 0.1 = 1.58041

So when you add that 10 percent extra in BAN has paid out 17.38451 so cough cough you want to correct your statement re p2 and ban.... AS it in fact it the other way around... AS BAN ALSO DOES NOT SHELF SHARES AS eligus does so that gap even higher when you factor in the shelf shares that eligus does

SOME simple math of the eligius PPS numbers show quite clear what the BAN payout would of been for the same time frame Smiley PS they also merge mine now so that gap is further when the merge mining factored in again a PPS payout Smiley

Also something else that caught my eye is this part of the pool test results here So, none of his tested pools have met expectations. However, p2Pool still wins here at 93.83% of expectations. You can add another 6 percent to the number above of 17.38451 as BAN is paying out at 100 percent of a expected rigs earn day in and out before the 10 percent bonus is factored in a simple 24 hour test would show this clear as days that the BAN PPS is basically right on the money with a rig expected earn via the stats on the homepage and what any bitcoin calculator splits out as the expected earn -/+ 1-2 percent to allow for a avg hash ... <<<< this comes back to the Eligius mod PPS system not paying a true 100 percent PPS due to the share shelving on their PPS so you would have to also look at the percent difference there as well of what the expected earn would of been on the rigs in question and also add that difference in to make up for the difference in the 2 different pps payouts .... so that 6 percent could well be 10-15 percent have not sit there and done the numbers to find how much more BAN is paying vs eligius on the PPS front with out factoring in the bonus

NOW to the second lot of fud here Smiley

Miners and dates, with hash rate and expected earnings
7/20 - 7/30, 2xS1 @ 400GH/s. Expected: 0.1121BTC
7/20 - 11/26 1xS3 @ 440GH/s. Expected: 1.0367BTC
7/20 - 11/26 1xS3 @ 420GH/s. Expected: 0.9896BTC
7/20 - 8/1 1xSP10 @ 1.35TH/s. Expected: 0.4509BTC
8/1 - 11/26 3xS3 @ 1.32TH/s. Expected: 2.6692BTC
8/9 - 11/26 3xS3 @ 1.32TH/s. Expected: 2.3875BTC

Expected total earnings from mining: 7.646BTC

Actual mined BTC: 8.61186032BTC

Difference: 0.96586032BTC

P2Pool has beaten expectations for the time period that BAN has been in existence by 12.6%. In other words, p2pool has paid 112.63% of expected earnings. YOU MAY WANT TO SIT THERE AND ALSO FACTOR IN THE 10 percent bonus on the expected total earnings from mining: 7.646BTC THAT BAN PAYS which brings BAN UP TO 8.4106 btc and then factor in the NMC blocks they have hit in this time Smiley YOU will more than likely find ban even out does P2 pool in this set of numbers as well Smiley or comes very close... it NOT 12.6 percent as claimed above as the poster forgot to factor in the bonus payments on top of the PPS and the nmc blocks.... It more likely they are on par or BAN has it nose in front just earning wise on this second set of data....