Quote from: cbeast on December 02, 2014, 01:47:05 AM

Quote from: UnunoctiumTesticles on December 01, 2014, 11:38:51 PM

Quote from: ArnoldChippy on December 01, 2014, 10:48:19 PM

I must be missing something.

What's the point of an altcoin if it could be blocked by government anyway - I mean, you seemed to be saying earlier that the US government could pull the plug on the internet backbone if things got desperate enough for them?

I said it is much more likely they would just filter protocol of crypto-currency.

In the logic of escalation as needed, the threat of blackout I think would first be used to induce a country to comply.

See the distinction is the threat is something the national government can address by complying. Whereas, with the improvements I suggested, the government could not comply because the pools are anonymous.

If the powers-that-be blacked out a country that had tried to comply but couldn't possibly comply since technologically impossible, that would backfire.

You've given no incentive to comply with your lawgivers. Confiscation can be easily deterred by real world decoys. No hacker worth his salt will work for a dictator so their lackeys will be easily spoofed. Iron Gloves and Jack Boots are so 20th Century. Your criminal secret police will be exposed to the world and your trade will be tariffed, firewalled, or blockaded. Unless you can give a strong moral reason to regulate Bitcoin more than cash, you have no moral authority for your argument. Without moral authority, your people will rebel. America is already past that point and is shutting down. They don't even have the budget or manpower to shut down the criminal marijuana stores.

As a young man I was able to separate my idealism from rational reality. I see many Bitcoiners have not made that shift from cartoon-land to reality.

You assume the masses aren't manipulated in terms of their priorities on morality. They are concerned about for example gay marriage and political corruption. National identification and financial transparency is important to them to stop terrorists, control immigration, track down the bank fraudsters, jail the banksters who created the debt crisis we have, etc.. Also people have many pet issues, so divide-and-conquer and needing the State (the powers-that-be) to be the referee (i.e. people are naturally never able to totally agree, thus you always need a cop, judge, government to hold the power else you have chaotic fighting-- the natural tendency of man is war not peace).

What you fail to comprehend is that powers-that-be have always been able to get the masses to blame the wrong cause in order to make solutions which favor the powers-that-be.

And that will NEVER change. Again re-read my post upthread, that the majority is ALWAYS wrong.

When I made that realization as a younger man, that golden rule formed the crux of my political philosophy for the rest of my life. This is why I am an anarchist and not a Libertarian. I never trust the collective majority to be a sane paradigm (even though members of that majority can be acting rationally in Ayn Rand's model of self-interest).

Quote from: UnunoctiumTesticles on December 01, 2014, 01:19:37 AM

Some of you think the tide is turning and the masses all over the world are waking up to the abuses of the USA government and other manifestations of the powers-that-be.

The greatest mistake anyone can make is to assume the majority will ever do the right thing. They never do. The majority is always wrong. If that were not the case, then evolution would stop functioning.

Any one who plans for the future based on hope in the system and the majority, is a sheeple cow and will prosper when society does and suffer when society does.

We westerners have experienced an amazingly long period of prosperity in the world and especially in the Western nations. This has been propped up by central banks which never allow any debt defaults to correct excesses and misallocations. Thus we've amassed a huge debt bubble that is going to pop with horrific implications on society-at-large.

The powers-that-be are well aware of how to manipulate this "awakening". As always, they turn idealism into fury and collective outcomes which empower their designs. They infiltrated the Black Panters during the Vietnam protest era. They helped to fuel the "free sex, free drugs" destruction of the boomers and western society. They were instrumental in the Bolshevik Revolution, etc.

They will unleash an economic implosion contagion, social unrest, violence, and upheaval. You will be so busy trying to survive all the crap that is hitting you in your daily life, that you won't have any time to sit down and produce anything. All your pontifications about you can do this and that, will fly out the window when you are too busy trying to avoid the daily violence and secure your food.

The growing hatred of the USA and the angst that will be spread, is fuel for the fire of burning the nation-state system to the ground, after which the weary burned out fury will welcome the one world governance savior to restore order.

The masses love chaos when they've been cooped up too long in a well controlled order. Let them fight for a while and grow weary then they will beg for order again and to be managed like the compliant sheeple they really are.

You are safe within the herd until the herd stampedes over a cliff or stampedes over you.

Because the majority are not leaders. The majority are sheeple and I think that includes you reader.