Quote from: solid12345 on December 03, 2014, 02:23:19 AM

The crypto community has a strange way of viewing what is fair and what is not.

if the Bytecoin devs today sold off all of their premined coins of the technology they invented now for a million dollars, its a scam.

However let's pretend Monero goes to a billion dollar market cap a year from now and the devs own 5% of the supply and they make off with 50 million dollars, well suddenly that is "fair" because they mined it even though they never invented anything really.

Personally I think the word "fair" means little around here. To me for example, Bryce Weiner cloning Neutrinocoin and stamping it with his logo was not in the interest of creating a "fair" neutrinocoin but a weasely way for Bryce and his coinmarket crew to get rich by ripping off neutrino with the cloak of altruism while they super mine it in its opening days. Who is going to stand up and defend those Neutrino crooks after all, there is no honor among thieves.

I operate under the assumption everyone has a selfish agenda.

fyi I don't own any cryptonote coins.

It''s not about selfish and and fair, it is about fraud, deceptive tactics, and lies.

If you find something that the Monero developers have said that isn't true, point it out. If we claimed that Monero was launched in April 18 but actually you find out that it was really launched on October 18 and we premined six months worth of coins in secret, go ahead and call us out for it. If you find that we are operating a half dozen or more other coins under shill identities, call us out for that. If we publish documents that claim to be from 2012 (including alleged digital signatures from 2012) but reference forum posts that didn't exist until 2013, go ahead and prove to everyone what liars and scammers we are.

If you you think that what Bytecoin/Cryptonote did was "fair" or that "fair" doesn't matter, that's your business. I don't even necessarily disagree that "fair" is a largely subjective and often meaningless concept. But if you think Bytecoins/Cryptonote wasn't operating in a fraudulent and deceptive manner (and got caught), then you are simply mistaken.