Quote from: Puppet on December 10, 2014, 09:52:21 AM

Quote from: rudi on December 10, 2014, 09:07:07 AM

Shouldn't we all be super stoked right now?

Certainly its better news than 'the chip doesnt work', but these are a few samples on a shared multiproject wafer. The idea is to be able to tweak the design before producing a full mask set. That means that mask set isnt done yet, and it will probably be 3+ months before production chips arrive if they were ordered today.

At least bitfury and spondoolies promised 0.2J/GH at the wall late this year or early next year (and twice that efficiency next year). Assuming they, or bitmain or anyone else, can achieve that, AM will be a fews months behind and with worse efficiency (*). Hardly a better competitive situation than BE200 was in, and that wasnt exactly a commercial slam dunk.

Its a shame friedcat didnt trust his design enough to go for full mask sets directly, that would have been something to be "super stoked" about. Now, its mostly a matter of hoping the competition doesnt meet its goals.

(*) numbers are still being updated and probably relate to few, possibly just 1 chip, so they may still change.

invariably, as we all know, this industry is never a one-horse race. All good points made above, but for this GEN however, it may well boil down to who gets first out the traps. That said, having samples to test does no way go the length to offer a best buy, just yet.

interesting times ahead.